New Posts For Thread: Before you place a bet on the champion hurdle race think about this.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-thisok,im not saying what will win it I just want to express a point on interest.Faugheen is well known for fiddling his hurdles.the new one jumps to the right at his hurdlesand jetski is well known for getting into the bottom of a hurdle.yet they are fithe game nowadays is lead by exchanges, even on course bookies have some sort of system updating their prices almost instantly based on betfair prices, G. Banks complained about this few weeks ago.. so basically real punters when they'll lose faith ihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543813129#543813129the game nowadays is lead by exchanges, even on course bookies have some sort of system updating their prices almost instantly based on betfair prices, G. Banks complained about this few weeks ago.. so basically real punters when they'll lose faith iThu, 05 Mar 2015 18:03:22 -0600@timtim. Really, you think his chances are about 50/50. You could be proved right but until he shows what he is capable of against top level horses I maintain its a crazy price. However with bookies it's a psychological game as they know that the shohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812897#543812897@timtim. Really, you think his chances are about 50/50. You could be proved right but until he shows what he is capable of against top level horses I maintain its a crazy price. However with bookies it's a psychological game as they know that the shoThu, 05 Mar 2015 17:43:48 -0600the other thing we should all remember is that Willie Mullins is a gentleman in racing and in life in general.He is treated like a god in Ireland.he has helped many many people within racing and life.there is not one person in Ireland that would nothttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812857#543812857the other thing we should all remember is that Willie Mullins is a gentleman in racing and in life in general.He is treated like a god in Ireland.he has helped many many people within racing and life.there is not one person in Ireland that would notThu, 05 Mar 2015 17:40:47 -0600Lay back the win bet if you think he can't win. However I'm happy enough to let the 10/1 win part of my bet roll on the fly. He has been better than Jezki all season and should not be over twice his price.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812835#543812835Lay back the win bet if you think he can't win. However I'm happy enough to let the 10/1 win part of my bet roll on the fly. He has been better than Jezki all season and should not be over twice his price.Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:37:51 -0600How is backing each way value.The Fly 10/1 20 eway say,comes 3rd the return is 70 quid,that's a mugs bet it turns into an odds on shot.Either you have Faugheen at 3/1 or bigger,or you bet on the place market if you think he is the most likely winner,https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812755#543812755How is backing each way value.The Fly 10/1 20 eway say,comes 3rd the return is 70 quid,that's a mugs bet it turns into an odds on shot.Either you have Faugheen at 3/1 or bigger,or you bet on the place market if you think he is the most likely winner,Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:32:56 -0600Def. doesn't sends him for nothing, sure the ground will play in his favour if it comes proper soft, but good-soft ground is bound for first day, just like previous years.Faugheen, if he confirms expectations, will never be bigger than evens in his chttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812703#543812703Def. doesn't sends him for nothing, sure the ground will play in his favour if it comes proper soft, but good-soft ground is bound for first day, just like previous years.Faugheen, if he confirms expectations, will never be bigger than evens in his cThu, 05 Mar 2015 17:30:35 -0600I hadn't ruled out Mullins doing a sand bagging job with Arctic Fire either cow when you watch the races at Leopardstown he has been running on at the end. However Walsh has said that AF will not win a champion hurdle. I think they will run him to gehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812635#543812635I hadn't ruled out Mullins doing a sand bagging job with Arctic Fire either cow when you watch the races at Leopardstown he has been running on at the end. However Walsh has said that AF will not win a champion hurdle. I think they will run him to geThu, 05 Mar 2015 17:24:52 -0600I can see a lot of sentimental money for the fly on the day. If Mullins thought he had no chance he wouldn't be sending him over, he has deserved a shot and he's only a few months older than he was when beating Jezki 3 times already this campaign. Hihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812617#543812617I can see a lot of sentimental money for the fly on the day. If Mullins thought he had no chance he wouldn't be sending him over, he has deserved a shot and he's only a few months older than he was when beating Jezki 3 times already this campaign. HiThu, 05 Mar 2015 17:23:00 -0600@trigger Hattons Grace in 1952 at 12yo(of course more classier than Fly in terms of ability) when bidding for his 4th champion hurdle, he faced terrible competition, he came from a horrible run lto no where near the form he was in previous year and hhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812515#543812515@trigger Hattons Grace in 1952 at 12yo(of course more classier than Fly in terms of ability) when bidding for his 4th champion hurdle, he faced terrible competition, he came from a horrible run lto no where near the form he was in previous year and hThu, 05 Mar 2015 17:15:40 -0600I do also think that Arctic Fire may have been plotted up, in other words never put in each of the races where he has contested HF. This could be a reason why Mullins is on the record saying to not forget him! On this beast at 25s! In fact as usual ohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30450913/before-you-place-a-bet-on-the-champion-hurdle-race-think-about-this?post_id=543812503#543812503I do also think that Arctic Fire may have been plotted up, in other words never put in each of the races where he has contested HF. This could be a reason why Mullins is on the record saying to not forget him! On this beast at 25s! In fact as usual oThu, 05 Mar 2015 17:14:54 -0600