New Posts For Thread: Would you send Unioniste to the Grand National or the Gold Cup?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cupNo 7 year old has won the Grand National since around the second world war, but as connections say Unioniste is no normal 7 year old. Would you send him their running off a rating of about 156, or instead have a tilt at the Gold Cup?Well, it's the Denman Chase tomorrow, Unioniste is running, with newly applied checkpieces (good sign). I was originally thinking if he won this race he would, and should, take his place in the Gold Cup, however if he does win/run well then he wouldhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543448687#543448687Well, it's the Denman Chase tomorrow, Unioniste is running, with newly applied checkpieces (good sign). I was originally thinking if he won this race he would, and should, take his place in the Gold Cup, however if he does win/run well then he wouldFri, 06 Feb 2015 15:09:42 -0600He has so much time on his hands, I'm sure the National will be on the agenda at some point in his career. Hopefully in 3 years time, after he wins this years Gold Cup (££££!!) and then gradually drops his rating back down as they did with Neptuhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543315181#543315181He has so much time on his hands, I'm sure the National will be on the agenda at some point in his career. Hopefully in 3 years time, after he wins this years Gold Cup (££££!!) and then gradually drops his rating back down as they did with NeptuWed, 28 Jan 2015 17:52:08 -0600right choice imohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543314077#543314077right choice imoWed, 28 Jan 2015 16:26:37 -0600Oops! Thanks Alleged! Not my finest post!Looks like Unioniste is heading for the Denman Chase now. So its loo. king more like the Gold Cup now. I hope so as I had s cheeky £5 at 900/1 before Xmas.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543313513#543313513Oops! Thanks Alleged! Not my finest post!Looks like Unioniste is heading for the Denman Chase now. So its loo. king more like the Gold Cup now. I hope so as I had s cheeky £5 at 900/1 before Xmas.Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:48:00 -0600^^^^ you mean going for the Hennessey???? Personally I think the Gold Cup route is still the most likely as the owner has Mon Parrain for the national. Time will tell!! john hales doesn't own mon parrainhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543303495#543303495^^^^ you mean going for the Hennessey???? Personally I think the Gold Cup route is still the most likely as the owner has Mon Parrain for the national. Time will tell!! john hales doesn't own mon parrainWed, 28 Jan 2015 02:32:26 -0600It is very plausible that Unioniste could win the Lexus and go off around 8-10/1 for the Gold Cup. He is still available at 75s+ on Betfair!! He is very interesting now he is the right age....https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543302247#543302247It is very plausible that Unioniste could win the Lexus and go off around 8-10/1 for the Gold Cup. He is still available at 75s+ on Betfair!! He is very interesting now he is the right age....Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:08:01 -0600It is really tricky to call what Nicholls has planned for Unioniste, I see he is now entered in the Haydock National trial(topweight), which is one day before the weights are set for the National, this is after he said Unioiste would run in either thhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543302221#543302221It is really tricky to call what Nicholls has planned for Unioniste, I see he is now entered in the Haydock National trial(topweight), which is one day before the weights are set for the National, this is after he said Unioiste would run in either thTue, 27 Jan 2015 22:00:54 -0600He's in the worst possible place rating wise to go for the National. Horses rated over 158-160 tend to get a bit of a favour from the handicapper, but for some reason if you're on 156 you run off 156. Hard to fancy him for either race but if Sivianohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543276235#543276235He's in the worst possible place rating wise to go for the National. Horses rated over 158-160 tend to get a bit of a favour from the handicapper, but for some reason if you're on 156 you run off 156. Hard to fancy him for either race but if SivianoMon, 26 Jan 2015 09:45:54 -0600I seem to recall the owner was n't a great fan of the Grand National before he won it with Neptune Collonges. Neptune ran in 4 Gold Cups before winning the Grand National as 11 yo at his only attempt.Neptune Collonges would n't be as precocious as Unhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543133845#543133845I seem to recall the owner was n't a great fan of the Grand National before he won it with Neptune Collonges. Neptune ran in 4 Gold Cups before winning the Grand National as 11 yo at his only attempt.Neptune Collonges would n't be as precocious as UnSat, 17 Jan 2015 07:03:09 -0600Yes it was strange that Nicholls ran him before the weights came out. Neptune Collonges ran in the same race the year he won the National.Connections have said they will not run in both races and now Unioniste has been entered for The Irish Hennesseyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30419989/would-you-send-unioniste-to-the-grand-national-or-the-gold-cup?post_id=543132419#543132419Yes it was strange that Nicholls ran him before the weights came out. Neptune Collonges ran in the same race the year he won the National.Connections have said they will not run in both races and now Unioniste has been entered for The Irish HennesseySat, 17 Jan 2015 03:46:18 -0600