New Posts For Thread: Vautour 9/1 Arkle Chase with PPhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-ppSmell a rat was 7s best price now 9/1!! Allegedly was his target re owner interview in Mark Howards book but we know what stable is like!Expect it won't make a difference but might not be 100% Vautour goes for JLT, comments from Ruby on RP website"There is no doubt that Vautour will get two and a half miles but he also has the pace to follow Un De Sceaux around. I wouldn't say it's ahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543298883#543298883Expect it won't make a difference but might not be 100% Vautour goes for JLT, comments from Ruby on RP website"There is no doubt that Vautour will get two and a half miles but he also has the pace to follow Un De Sceaux around. I wouldn't say it's aTue, 27 Jan 2015 16:38:17 -0600^^^^^ I agreehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543274467#543274467^^^^^ I agreeMon, 26 Jan 2015 07:37:33 -0600Every Supreme winner has either run in the Champion Hurdle or Arkle the following season in last decade. All have been beaten. The JLT is there now to give the option. Al Ferof and Champagne Fever I feel would have beaten Noble Prince and Taquin Du Shttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543274349#543274349Every Supreme winner has either run in the Champion Hurdle or Arkle the following season in last decade. All have been beaten. The JLT is there now to give the option. Al Ferof and Champagne Fever I feel would have beaten Noble Prince and Taquin Du SMon, 26 Jan 2015 07:25:39 -0600How many of those Supreme winners won the Arkle? The Arkle was considered the best Gold Cup Trial before the JLT existed. We've seen the shift to JLT and especially RSA for Gold Cup winners. What Mullins is talking about, stayers win the Supreme. Allhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543274261#543274261How many of those Supreme winners won the Arkle? The Arkle was considered the best Gold Cup Trial before the JLT existed. We've seen the shift to JLT and especially RSA for Gold Cup winners. What Mullins is talking about, stayers win the Supreme. AllMon, 26 Jan 2015 07:13:03 -0600surely now though if trainers think theyve a gc horse then the JLT is the better racea few years back this wasnt an option.at least they'll find out if he stays that trip. they kept saying champagne was a stayer but ran him in the arkle - this seasonhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543274237#543274237surely now though if trainers think theyve a gc horse then the JLT is the better racea few years back this wasnt an option.at least they'll find out if he stays that trip. they kept saying champagne was a stayer but ran him in the arkle - this seasonMon, 26 Jan 2015 07:09:28 -0600Not wishing to be argumentative CV, but the list of supreme winners that turned out to be stayers that you listed on the previous page, all ran in the Arkle. In fact there was a period not so long ago when the Arkle was seen as the best CGC trial.Thehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543274143#543274143Not wishing to be argumentative CV, but the list of supreme winners that turned out to be stayers that you listed on the previous page, all ran in the Arkle. In fact there was a period not so long ago when the Arkle was seen as the best CGC trial.TheMon, 26 Jan 2015 07:00:14 -0600Ah Yes, it was Simonsig. They thought Conan should avoid him. So Henderson has also kept his apart is what I'm referring tohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543274051#543274051Ah Yes, it was Simonsig. They thought Conan should avoid him. So Henderson has also kept his apart is what I'm referring toMon, 26 Jan 2015 06:51:00 -0600CVByrne post at 21.39 is correct.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543274005#543274005CVByrne post at 21.39 is correct.Mon, 26 Jan 2015 06:45:33 -0600CV JUST HAVE TO CORRECT YOU ON SOMETHINGthey didnt run captain conan because of simonsig not sprinter sacrei'm convinced captain conan would have won that arkle, didnt stay in the JLThttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543273317#543273317CV JUST HAVE TO CORRECT YOU ON SOMETHINGthey didnt run captain conan because of simonsig not sprinter sacrei'm convinced captain conan would have won that arkle, didnt stay in the JLTMon, 26 Jan 2015 05:01:46 -0600Well ive seen all the Arkle contenders(whats left of them)and I aint seen a better jumper of a fence than UDS.Course he may fall,so might any of the others,not that there will be many others.Not really substance for wagering though!!Funny how winninghttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30363187/vautour-91-arkle-chase-with-pp?post_id=543272477#543272477Well ive seen all the Arkle contenders(whats left of them)and I aint seen a better jumper of a fence than UDS.Course he may fall,so might any of the others,not that there will be many others.Not really substance for wagering though!!Funny how winningMon, 26 Jan 2015 01:12:01 -0600