New Posts For Thread: GOULANES - National Hunt Chase - 4 Mileshttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-milesI was impressed both on course at Cheltenham when Goulanes stayed on up the Cheltenhsm Hill to beat Cross Kennon on only his 2nd hurdle start, and again when beating Super Duty, staying on to lead in last 50 yards, on his Chase debut.Both were on tesPipe said today that the owner is keen on the RSA. Will follow this one whether RSA or the 4 miler. Tough horse, stays and has Cheltenham form.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=529170017#529170017Pipe said today that the owner is keen on the RSA. Will follow this one whether RSA or the 4 miler. Tough horse, stays and has Cheltenham form.Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:38:21 -0600If the ground determines which race Dynaste contests, then you are probably right td. On undemanding ground, this looks booked for the RSA and Pipe will probably tell Roger Brookhouse he hasn't a cat in hell's chance of beating him. On heavy ground,https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528871649#528871649If the ground determines which race Dynaste contests, then you are probably right td. On undemanding ground, this looks booked for the RSA and Pipe will probably tell Roger Brookhouse he hasn't a cat in hell's chance of beating him. On heavy ground,Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:38:57 -0600I think the ground must be coming into play too. He has needed every yard of three miles in his races this year on very deep, testing ground, so presumably connections are worried that he'd be taken off his feet on better stuff in the RSA.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528871423#528871423I think the ground must be coming into play too. He has needed every yard of three miles in his races this year on very deep, testing ground, so presumably connections are worried that he'd be taken off his feet on better stuff in the RSA.Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:32:13 -0600I think what we can agree on is that he is a cracking horse to have a go at the Festival with, and that trainers dont always do what you want them to (Quevega-World Hurdle.If you prefer him for the RSA, then theres £20 at around 40s for that race wihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528871049#528871049I think what we can agree on is that he is a cracking horse to have a go at the Festival with, and that trainers dont always do what you want them to (Quevega-World Hurdle.If you prefer him for the RSA, then theres £20 at around 40s for that race wiFri, 08 Feb 2013 13:21:37 -0600I agree with you BiGA but that's trainers for you.Nowadays you win the Neptune Hurdle - bang, your favourite for next year's Champion Hurdle (some bo11ocks about 'how well you travelled' is usually mentioned)Win the Arkle and they're talking of you bhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528861453#528861453I agree with you BiGA but that's trainers for you.Nowadays you win the Neptune Hurdle - bang, your favourite for next year's Champion Hurdle (some bo11ocks about 'how well you travelled' is usually mentioned)Win the Arkle and they're talking of you bFri, 08 Feb 2013 07:41:12 -0600If a horse wins by getting up on the line in a 2mile race, do we all say he suddenly needs 3miles? So I appreciate it is a tad different 3miles up to 4 miles, but there is no guarentee a horse getting up over 3 miles needs 4miles. How many horses winhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528858953#528858953If a horse wins by getting up on the line in a 2mile race, do we all say he suddenly needs 3miles? So I appreciate it is a tad different 3miles up to 4 miles, but there is no guarentee a horse getting up over 3 miles needs 4miles. How many horses winFri, 08 Feb 2013 04:58:16 -0600Goulanes is 56.0 on Betfair if anyone thinks he is going for the shorter event, whereas less than 12 for 4M National Hunt race, I think he's turning up and going to be King of the Grinders.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528818617#528818617Goulanes is 56.0 on Betfair if anyone thinks he is going for the shorter event, whereas less than 12 for 4M National Hunt race, I think he's turning up and going to be King of the Grinders.Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:52:51 -0600BigAdz, follow your point on the RSA, but I think that the RSA is much less of a slog now the Jewson has taken some of the numbers and pace out of the race. The last couple of years the horses winning/placing arent sloggers. If Pipe thinks the samehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528817761#528817761BigAdz, follow your point on the RSA, but I think that the RSA is much less of a slog now the Jewson has taken some of the numbers and pace out of the race. The last couple of years the horses winning/placing arent sloggers. If Pipe thinks the sameWed, 06 Feb 2013 14:25:47 -0600I think you make a fair point BA. Years ago Wetherby was a real tough steeplechasing test but not these days. The extra 110 yards is all uphill too!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528812069#528812069I think you make a fair point BA. Years ago Wetherby was a real tough steeplechasing test but not these days. The extra 110 yards is all uphill too!Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:01:03 -0600Bet you were sat right at the front a school eh alleged?! 3 miles round wetherby or 3m 110yrd at Chelts, I think you get my point.....https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29759353/goulanes---national-hunt-chase---4-miles?post_id=528807147#528807147Bet you were sat right at the front a school eh alleged?! 3 miles round wetherby or 3m 110yrd at Chelts, I think you get my point.....Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:00:33 -0600