New Posts For Thread: TOPSPEED RATINGS IN ARKLE!!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkleCan someone please explain these ratings to me? In the Racing Post today Simonsig is rated 167 in the Racing Post ratings with overturn 158 and Arvika Ligeonniere 156. In the Topspeed ratings AL is 151 Simonsig is 132 and Overturn is not even on theThanks ROGERTHEBUTLER!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528653797#528653797Thanks ROGERTHEBUTLER!Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:31:23 -0600giggsy3444 Joined: 17 Aug 05Replies: 183 31 Jan 13 15:33 so if there were 2 races at the same meeting on the same day and going and one race was run at a quicker pace then the other you could potentially have a 100/1 shot who was beat 30 lengths ihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528639063#528639063giggsy3444 Joined: 17 Aug 05Replies: 183 31 Jan 13 15:33 so if there were 2 races at the same meeting on the same day and going and one race was run at a quicker pace then the other you could potentially have a 100/1 shot who was beat 30 lengths iThu, 31 Jan 2013 09:59:30 -0600bullet train was 100/1 many times and beaten 15l many times - he would have whupped a 50 rated handicapper.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528638465#528638465bullet train was 100/1 many times and beaten 15l many times - he would have whupped a 50 rated handicapper.Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:38:50 -0600since when did a winning distance matter?I don't think I understand the question giggsy....https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528638407#528638407since when did a winning distance matter?I don't think I understand the question giggsy....Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:37:10 -0600so if there were 2 races at the same meeting on the same day and going and one race was run at a quicker pace then the other you could potentially have a 100/1 shot who was beat 30 lengths in the fast run race being rated higher that a 1/5 shot who whttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528638251#528638251so if there were 2 races at the same meeting on the same day and going and one race was run at a quicker pace then the other you could potentially have a 100/1 shot who was beat 30 lengths in the fast run race being rated higher that a 1/5 shot who wThu, 31 Jan 2013 09:33:38 -0600Would it be fair to say then that soft ground performers are on average going to have much lower speed figuresThere are ground 'adjustments' to time figures, it is about judging the standard time of the day.For example a 5f sprint run to standard athttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528638113#528638113Would it be fair to say then that soft ground performers are on average going to have much lower speed figuresThere are ground 'adjustments' to time figures, it is about judging the standard time of the day.For example a 5f sprint run to standard atThu, 31 Jan 2013 09:28:53 -0600NoThe going allowance that Topspeed (and other speed ratings compilers) calculate and factor into the maths of producing their figures eliminates the effect of the going.The figures produced aren't a 'miles per hour' type figure - which would clearlyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528638079#528638079NoThe going allowance that Topspeed (and other speed ratings compilers) calculate and factor into the maths of producing their figures eliminates the effect of the going.The figures produced aren't a 'miles per hour' type figure - which would clearlyThu, 31 Jan 2013 09:27:28 -0600Would it be fair to say then that soft ground performers are on average going to have much lower speed figures than the good ground horses, and consequently, depending on what type of ground they are racing on a particular day, some figures are uselehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528637161#528637161Would it be fair to say then that soft ground performers are on average going to have much lower speed figures than the good ground horses, and consequently, depending on what type of ground they are racing on a particular day, some figures are useleThu, 31 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0600I would be wary of going nuts deep on any animal that hasn'teither runa fast time or been extended beyond a canter, at the Festival.It's always tempting to come up with ideas of how far they would have won by or how fast they would have run, but thishttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528636929#528636929I would be wary of going nuts deep on any animal that hasn'teither runa fast time or been extended beyond a canter, at the Festival.It's always tempting to come up with ideas of how far they would have won by or how fast they would have run, but thisThu, 31 Jan 2013 08:44:06 -0600exercise gallops or should i say a public schooling on a racecoursehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29750131/topspeed-ratings-in-arkle?post_id=528636885#528636885exercise gallops or should i say a public schooling on a racecourseThu, 31 Jan 2013 08:42:17 -0600