New Posts For Thread: Cheltenham ground, Trials day vs Festivalhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festivalBeen looking into the recent going for the Trials day compared to the Festival that same year.I am aware that until recently, watering the course in March was the norm, and weather conditions are hugely variable year to year but:-If you look at the lI'd certainly agree that the chances are greater this year and a good discussion anything Cheltenham related is enjoyable.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528254619#528254619I'd certainly agree that the chances are greater this year and a good discussion anything Cheltenham related is enjoyable.Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:56:18 -0600I have horses like Oscar Whisky for the CH and Tidal Bay for the gold cup at huge odds for small outlay,in case its soft.Others i have backed with the VC offer so if they dont run i get another bet.That will not lose me much money at all if it aint shttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528253217#528253217I have horses like Oscar Whisky for the CH and Tidal Bay for the gold cup at huge odds for small outlay,in case its soft.Others i have backed with the VC offer so if they dont run i get another bet.That will not lose me much money at all if it aint sMon, 21 Jan 2013 11:14:08 -0600Cheltenham is known as a good draining course, but as someone pointed out, it will only drain well if there's somewhere for the water to drain to. Last year was one of the wettest summers' in history, going into the start of the season the ground washttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528247875#528247875Cheltenham is known as a good draining course, but as someone pointed out, it will only drain well if there's somewhere for the water to drain to. Last year was one of the wettest summers' in history, going into the start of the season the ground wasMon, 21 Jan 2013 07:35:20 -0600The twist on that for me is actually to be far more wary of backing horse AP on the assumption it will be the normal ground. By the same token it is sensible to keep soft ground horses in the thought process longer in case it does happen.It may wellhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528247853#528247853The twist on that for me is actually to be far more wary of backing horse AP on the assumption it will be the normal ground. By the same token it is sensible to keep soft ground horses in the thought process longer in case it does happen.It may wellMon, 21 Jan 2013 07:34:11 -0600buddelieaI don't agree. The most likely thing to happen is that it will dry up as we approach spring and that it does so quickly at Cheltenham. It does it nearly every year. This year could of course be an exception but backing soft ground horses inhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528247533#528247533buddelieaI don't agree. The most likely thing to happen is that it will dry up as we approach spring and that it does so quickly at Cheltenham. It does it nearly every year. This year could of course be an exception but backing soft ground horses inMon, 21 Jan 2013 07:12:59 -0600For the anoraks, I calculate going adjustments using my own standards, class allowance etc. and have the following for the last few years.The numbers are worked as seconds per mile slow or fast, with the official going in brackets.1/1/2009 -3.9 (G/Shttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528245059#528245059For the anoraks, I calculate going adjustments using my own standards, class allowance etc. and have the following for the last few years.The numbers are worked as seconds per mile slow or fast, with the official going in brackets.1/1/2009 -3.9 (G/SMon, 21 Jan 2013 04:40:04 -0600The weather outlook makes racing on Saturday look unlikely but that does not change your point about the going in March. I share the view of others that 3 weeks of drying winds would make a big difference but the meeting is relatively early startinghttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528243503#528243503The weather outlook makes racing on Saturday look unlikely but that does not change your point about the going in March. I share the view of others that 3 weeks of drying winds would make a big difference but the meeting is relatively early startingMon, 21 Jan 2013 02:21:52 -0600Only the total ignorant would say its going to be normal cheltenham going right now.Of course its possible we will,we all know how will it drains,but the FACT is we have had a lot more rain than normal since the summer,and now we have a load of snowhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528243181#528243181Only the total ignorant would say its going to be normal cheltenham going right now.Of course its possible we will,we all know how will it drains,but the FACT is we have had a lot more rain than normal since the summer,and now we have a load of snowMon, 21 Jan 2013 01:42:36 -0600Ah. The words nailed over the poor house door:This time you thought it would be different.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528235995#528235995Ah. The words nailed over the poor house door:This time you thought it would be different.Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:58:54 -0600i too think this year is very different to others recentlyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29635765/cheltenham-ground-trials-day-vs-festival?post_id=528224617#528224617i too think this year is very different to others recentlySun, 20 Jan 2013 11:45:53 -0600