New Posts For Thread: cinders and ashes.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashesIMO its looked very moderate in both its races . obviously the 1st is forgivable .but its not just been beaten its been beaten out of site. it may improve for better ground but good horses should be competative on any surface as last yr it won on sofWell of all the posts i had read on here regarding C&A and come to the conclusion that most were of the same opinion as me. In that he has not shown the same level of form as last year simply because he has never had the pace to run off in either ofhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527661049#527661049Well of all the posts i had read on here regarding C&A and come to the conclusion that most were of the same opinion as me. In that he has not shown the same level of form as last year simply because he has never had the pace to run off in either ofTue, 01 Jan 2013 14:25:00 -0600i'd be very surprised if c & a was a top of the ground horse, may be a class issue or a second year loss of form as suggested imho.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527660139#527660139i'd be very surprised if c & a was a top of the ground horse, may be a class issue or a second year loss of form as suggested imho.Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:02:12 -0600No evidence to suggest he isn't in the same form as last year...Well other than the 2 runs where he's had the balls beaten off of him or do we not include his races this season as his current form.Good luck with your bet but i can't see him winning ahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527658763#527658763No evidence to suggest he isn't in the same form as last year...Well other than the 2 runs where he's had the balls beaten off of him or do we not include his races this season as his current form.Good luck with your bet but i can't see him winning aTue, 01 Jan 2013 13:17:25 -0600He's flat bred,The vast majority of flat bred horse's normally regress after one good season.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527658405#527658405He's flat bred,The vast majority of flat bred horse's normally regress after one good season.Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:05:46 -0600Cinders And Ashes' heavy ground form isn't worth squat imo. He won those races easily as he was entitled to by being the far, far superior horseI think he needs better ground to be at his best.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527657877#527657877Cinders And Ashes' heavy ground form isn't worth squat imo. He won those races easily as he was entitled to by being the far, far superior horseI think he needs better ground to be at his best.Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:49:10 -0600I'd be looking at Darlan for next year's Arklehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527657739#527657739I'd be looking at Darlan for next year's ArkleTue, 01 Jan 2013 12:44:45 -0600Graeme I accept that now the assumption is wrong but not necessarily at the time. He had proven form on heavy so does not 'need' good ground as the post claimed.I agree that you need to trust your own eyes always in a gambling context and maintain thttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527657695#527657695Graeme I accept that now the assumption is wrong but not necessarily at the time. He had proven form on heavy so does not 'need' good ground as the post claimed.I agree that you need to trust your own eyes always in a gambling context and maintain tTue, 01 Jan 2013 12:43:17 -0600ofc you'll have some that will turn out better down the line. Although i think Darlan ain't that special myself and i got the feeling they think the same at hendo's when they were talking on channel 4.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527657537#527657537ofc you'll have some that will turn out better down the line. Although i think Darlan ain't that special myself and i got the feeling they think the same at hendo's when they were talking on channel 4.Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:37:10 -0600Some novices improve more than others. Darlan done it well. I'd be slightly cautious with putting them all in the same boat.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527657067#527657067Some novices improve more than others. Darlan done it well. I'd be slightly cautious with putting them all in the same boat.Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:19:07 -0600personally think the novice hurdlers, bar Simonsig are pretty bad. I'd expect the seniors to fill the frame in the champion.Only an opinion mind you.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29608543/cinders-and-ashes?post_id=527656997#527656997personally think the novice hurdlers, bar Simonsig are pretty bad. I'd expect the seniors to fill the frame in the champion.Only an opinion mind you.Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:16:48 -0600