New Posts For Thread: Coneygree - is World Hurdle an optionhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-optionHe wouldn't be the first exciting novice to go this route and yes I know it was before the additional novice races but Iris's Gift went awful close against Baracouda and Limestone Lad as a noviceI'm with betty here. It is taken as given that Cheltenham will provide 'good Spring ground' and hence some horses will be priced accordingly. I think there is a very good chance that we will have much softer ground than usual and so there may be valuhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527336647#527336647I'm with betty here. It is taken as given that Cheltenham will provide 'good Spring ground' and hence some horses will be priced accordingly. I think there is a very good chance that we will have much softer ground than usual and so there may be valuWed, 19 Dec 2012 07:19:43 -0600True Duffy. Maybe they do it to keep animal rights happy. Oh yeah, and here out in the Sahara race track it's currently gd/sft, and there's no signs of that changing.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527336249#527336249True Duffy. Maybe they do it to keep animal rights happy. Oh yeah, and here out in the Sahara race track it's currently gd/sft, and there's no signs of that changing.Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:03:16 -0600If we had a heatwave between now and march the word soft would still appear in the going descriptionhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527335483#527335483If we had a heatwave between now and march the word soft would still appear in the going descriptionWed, 19 Dec 2012 06:17:06 -0600Duffy, you seem to ber forgetting that we also had a very wet spring, summer and autumn this year.Look at how much rain it took to change the going at the Paddy power meeting to Heavy - not alot.The ground at Prestbury is sodden, the water table is ahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527334063#527334063Duffy, you seem to ber forgetting that we also had a very wet spring, summer and autumn this year.Look at how much rain it took to change the going at the Paddy power meeting to Heavy - not alot.The ground at Prestbury is sodden, the water table is aWed, 19 Dec 2012 04:25:01 -0600we'll see, I know we've had all this rain but we've seen it before, pi55es down all winter then we get a fortnights dry spell before the festival and it all drys up!!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527326591#527326591we'll see, I know we've had all this rain but we've seen it before, pi55es down all winter then we get a fortnights dry spell before the festival and it all drys up!!Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:20:00 -0600and the likelyhood of it being faster than slow good to soft in March is nilhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527321507#527321507and the likelyhood of it being faster than slow good to soft in March is nilTue, 18 Dec 2012 15:44:16 -0600Unless the horse can alter his action he can't be better on faster going, it's not a case of the horse thinking "oh, i like the feel of this" its how he moves, it's the physics of it, having said that,sometimes a horse can alter how he moves, mikhailhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527321209#527321209Unless the horse can alter his action he can't be better on faster going, it's not a case of the horse thinking "oh, i like the feel of this" its how he moves, it's the physics of it, having said that,sometimes a horse can alter how he moves, mikhailTue, 18 Dec 2012 15:37:06 -0600brindisi breeze's action and coneygree's action are like chalk and cheese.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527320949#527320949brindisi breeze's action and coneygree's action are like chalk and cheese.Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:29:00 -0600Why would it be a riskZaidpour falls into the overrated category for me. I wouldn't be worried if he took on Quevaga over 3miles on soft ground so Zaidpour wouldn't worry me in the slightest and the same for Tidal Bay.With Big Buck's out of the way ahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527320885#527320885Why would it be a riskZaidpour falls into the overrated category for me. I wouldn't be worried if he took on Quevaga over 3miles on soft ground so Zaidpour wouldn't worry me in the slightest and the same for Tidal Bay.With Big Buck's out of the way aTue, 18 Dec 2012 15:27:05 -0600Rease has pretty much summed all my thoughts up on this thread without me really having to add anything more. Agree with the Brindisi Breeze comparison and I was suckered by that in to not backing him last year because it was rammed down our throatshttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29540405/coneygree---is-world-hurdle-an-option?post_id=527320375#527320375Rease has pretty much summed all my thoughts up on this thread without me really having to add anything more. Agree with the Brindisi Breeze comparison and I was suckered by that in to not backing him last year because it was rammed down our throatsTue, 18 Dec 2012 15:11:43 -0600