New Posts For Thread: Rsa chase winner out tomorrowhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrowTank of a horseAfter hearing what Ruby said about the ground I feel a bit more optimistic about my ante post brt - jumped well - obv a stayer , just hope they can get another couple of runs in to him after a gruelling run .https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526950535#526950535After hearing what Ruby said about the ground I feel a bit more optimistic about my ante post brt - jumped well - obv a stayer , just hope they can get another couple of runs in to him after a gruelling run .Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:08:35 -0600sint, I was just pointing out that few Gold Cup winners in recent years had won the RSA. Going further back, Garrison Savannah and Looks Like Trouble did the double. Best Mate, Kauto Star and Kicking King all started out over shorter distances, Imperhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526949557#526949557sint, I was just pointing out that few Gold Cup winners in recent years had won the RSA. Going further back, Garrison Savannah and Looks Like Trouble did the double. Best Mate, Kauto Star and Kicking King all started out over shorter distances, ImperMon, 17 Dec 2012 13:43:32 -0600roo - I agree. Said on another similar thread earlier in the year that I thought David Pipe would have learned from Grands Crus experience and take a different route via Jewson with Dynaste. And yes that is my pocket talking in hope !https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526944829#526944829roo - I agree. Said on another similar thread earlier in the year that I thought David Pipe would have learned from Grands Crus experience and take a different route via Jewson with Dynaste. And yes that is my pocket talking in hope !Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:45:55 -0600Trainers would not run potential GC horses in the race if they thought there was a genuine chance of it ruining them. Same horses just struggle to have two seasons the same, at any level.Just looking at things, I just get the the impression that traihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526944275#526944275Trainers would not run potential GC horses in the race if they thought there was a genuine chance of it ruining them. Same horses just struggle to have two seasons the same, at any level.Just looking at things, I just get the the impression that traiMon, 17 Dec 2012 10:22:48 -0600where is the evidence for that line of thought though Sage?Abertas Run, Bobsworth,Trabolgan .. they have all landed big races afterwards. Isn't it just a case of some of them going backwards, and some of them going forwards. It's like most festival rhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526943361#526943361where is the evidence for that line of thought though Sage?Abertas Run, Bobsworth,Trabolgan .. they have all landed big races afterwards. Isn't it just a case of some of them going backwards, and some of them going forwards. It's like most festival rMon, 17 Dec 2012 09:40:42 -0600Sorry, Best Mate was denied an Arkle win because of Foot and Mouth but that was the intended route.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526943105#526943105Sorry, Best Mate was denied an Arkle win because of Foot and Mouth but that was the intended route.Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:30:07 -0600Denman won the RSA, Hennessy twice and a Gold Cup but on the whole, winners of the RSA are more likely to regress than improve imo. More Gold Cup winners (Best Mate and Kicking King recently) have come from the Arkle so I agree that the Jewson is a shttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526943069#526943069Denman won the RSA, Hennessy twice and a Gold Cup but on the whole, winners of the RSA are more likely to regress than improve imo. More Gold Cup winners (Best Mate and Kicking King recently) have come from the Arkle so I agree that the Jewson is a sMon, 17 Dec 2012 09:28:53 -0600The difference between Sir Des and BB is that one of them has been raced over 3miles before contesting the RSA/Jewson.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526942399#526942399The difference between Sir Des and BB is that one of them has been raced over 3miles before contesting the RSA/Jewson.Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:55:38 -0600I think the RSA Chase theory for setting a horse back is overstated myself. The evidence is mized at best. Trainers would not run potential GC horses in the race if they thought there was a genuine chance of it ruining them. Same horses just strugglehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526942347#526942347I think the RSA Chase theory for setting a horse back is overstated myself. The evidence is mized at best. Trainers would not run potential GC horses in the race if they thought there was a genuine chance of it ruining them. Same horses just struggleMon, 17 Dec 2012 08:53:43 -0600Agree with that and said on another thread that Jewson I see as a more viable option for potential RSA horses whereas it would be less likely for viable Arkle candidates - same trainer issues aside that is.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29537521/rsa-chase-winner-out-tomorrow?post_id=526939893#526939893Agree with that and said on another thread that Jewson I see as a more viable option for potential RSA horses whereas it would be less likely for viable Arkle candidates - same trainer issues aside that is.Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:27:58 -0600