New Posts For Thread: Disgraceful William Hillhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hillgoing 1/5 odds 1-2-3 for Cheltenham Festival, Ladbrokes for SOME races. A jokeNo. At 1/5th you get 4/1 for the place. The example you speak of makes 6/4 anyway, which is only relevant if you assume the win bet is an inevitable loser (such as betting each way on the stayers hurdle).https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526551421#526551421No. At 1/5th you get 4/1 for the place. The example you speak of makes 6/4 anyway, which is only relevant if you assume the win bet is an inevitable loser (such as betting each way on the stayers hurdle).Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:45:28 -0600ACStafford, you aren't getting 4/1 on the place of a 20/1 shot.£1 e/w at 20s. Horse comes 3rd for 4/1 at a 1/5th the odds, you've got £1 @ 4/1 return of £5 for a £2 outlay. 5/2 the place.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526502129#526502129ACStafford, you aren't getting 4/1 on the place of a 20/1 shot.£1 e/w at 20s. Horse comes 3rd for 4/1 at a 1/5th the odds, you've got £1 @ 4/1 return of £5 for a £2 outlay. 5/2 the place.Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:33:42 -0600Exactly what I said mate, I said you are talking nonsense and she replied with I'm not gonna carry on cos you're being "unpleasent" I questioned this and she said because I said I told her it was nonsense. Brilliant just said "keep those punters pumphttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526497963#526497963Exactly what I said mate, I said you are talking nonsense and she replied with I'm not gonna carry on cos you're being "unpleasent" I questioned this and she said because I said I told her it was nonsense. Brilliant just said "keep those punters pumpFri, 30 Nov 2012 16:39:39 -0600exactly, they should be begging for each way money antepost'not mathmatically viable' with the amount of injuries, burst bubbles on hype horses, changing running plans what are they scared of? literally everything is in the bookies favour alreadyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526492597#526492597exactly, they should be begging for each way money antepost'not mathmatically viable' with the amount of injuries, burst bubbles on hype horses, changing running plans what are they scared of? literally everything is in the bookies favour alreadyFri, 30 Nov 2012 14:04:24 -0600I wouldn't consider doing each way without nrnb. When backing a 20/1 shot, you'd be getting 5/1 the place which probably isn't as good value as the win price when you've factored in the chance of the horse not running. That's why I'm surprised that bhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526492127#526492127I wouldn't consider doing each way without nrnb. When backing a 20/1 shot, you'd be getting 5/1 the place which probably isn't as good value as the win price when you've factored in the chance of the horse not running. That's why I'm surprised that bFri, 30 Nov 2012 13:49:49 -0600Just personal I guess, but so much time for something to happen. Good chance might not make it so sooner keep the place stake for either another bet or going in later.As an aside those races with most runners quoted do seem 1/4 odds but I understandhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526490295#526490295Just personal I guess, but so much time for something to happen. Good chance might not make it so sooner keep the place stake for either another bet or going in later.As an aside those races with most runners quoted do seem 1/4 odds but I understandFri, 30 Nov 2012 12:52:37 -0600just spoke to Kate Miller on Twitter these were her repliesKate Miller ‏@racingkate@BoxingFan10 1/5 on some races. Not all. Standard ante-post terms are 1/5th. Although I realise 1/4 odds EW is a longstanding concession.Kate Miller ‏@racingkate@Bhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526488921#526488921just spoke to Kate Miller on Twitter these were her repliesKate Miller ‏@racingkate@BoxingFan10 1/5 on some races. Not all. Standard ante-post terms are 1/5th. Although I realise 1/4 odds EW is a longstanding concession.Kate Miller ‏@racingkate@BFri, 30 Nov 2012 12:05:10 -0600I dont think its important whether you want to back e/w now or not ! its wrong and firms like Hills should be exposedhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526488823#526488823I dont think its important whether you want to back e/w now or not ! its wrong and firms like Hills should be exposedFri, 30 Nov 2012 12:02:05 -0600Would you really want to bet e/w at this stage?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526488527#526488527Would you really want to bet e/w at this stage?Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:52:47 -0600You'd think they'd want to encourage some antepost each way betting, but those terms are awful, especially when you know you'll be getting 1/4 on the day.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29517187/disgraceful-william-hill?post_id=526487497#526487497You'd think they'd want to encourage some antepost each way betting, but those terms are awful, especially when you know you'll be getting 1/4 on the day.Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:15:26 -0600