New Posts For Thread: If Grand Crus performs like he did in the Felthamhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-felthamSurely at around the 6/1 mark he MUST go close to winning the King George ...... surely he stays the trip wont mind any ground and his Feltham victory was AWESOME he will like always be facing horses that are 2 - 2 Half milers time after time 2m andI think Riverside might be an exceptionally good horse and 3 m on a flat, right handed track should be ideal for him. Finians is an interesting one for sure but there has to be some doubt he'll stay (though he got the "easy" 2 1/2m at Aintree with nohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524429205#524429205I think Riverside might be an exceptionally good horse and 3 m on a flat, right handed track should be ideal for him. Finians is an interesting one for sure but there has to be some doubt he'll stay (though he got the "easy" 2 1/2m at Aintree with noMon, 24 Sep 2012 04:40:15 -0500Would love to see Kauto do it again, and happily lose money seeing it. Would certainly be a danger if he does turn up, and to be honest I think I'll be more surprised if he doesn't. Without doubt would be the best horse in the race, but can he do ithttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524420417#524420417Would love to see Kauto do it again, and happily lose money seeing it. Would certainly be a danger if he does turn up, and to be honest I think I'll be more surprised if he doesn't. Without doubt would be the best horse in the race, but can he do itSun, 23 Sep 2012 17:06:25 -0500Maybe, but the PP is a prestigious race, possibly better as a season opener, and the Pipe's love it. I'd not be surprised if he turns up in any of the Betfair, PP or Hennessey as his season opener (and the last would resolve the staying question). I'https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524419105#524419105Maybe, but the PP is a prestigious race, possibly better as a season opener, and the Pipe's love it. I'd not be surprised if he turns up in any of the Betfair, PP or Hennessey as his season opener (and the last would resolve the staying question). I'Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:14:45 -0500I quite like the idea of Grands Crus running in the PP, I just don't think it'll happen. I think they think the world of this horse and it'll be the top grade 1 races like the Betfair & KG rather than the PP and/or Hennessy.I've already backed GC forhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524416751#524416751I quite like the idea of Grands Crus running in the PP, I just don't think it'll happen. I think they think the world of this horse and it'll be the top grade 1 races like the Betfair & KG rather than the PP and/or Hennessy.I've already backed GC forSun, 23 Sep 2012 15:04:52 -0500RNL, I expect that's right. GC will end up in the Gold Cup but only because he won't be given the chance to fail enough beforehand. However, I believe his best chance of winning at the Festival is the Ryanair (and for that reason, off 157, he's a bihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524416047#524416047RNL, I expect that's right. GC will end up in the Gold Cup but only because he won't be given the chance to fail enough beforehand. However, I believe his best chance of winning at the Festival is the Ryanair (and for that reason, off 157, he's a biSun, 23 Sep 2012 14:43:54 -0500I think Grands Crus will have to disappoint in a big way and unequivocally prove he doesn't stay for them to choose the Ryanair over the Gold Cup. IMO he does stay 3m and he will win at least one big race prior to Cheltenham so I can't see him endinghttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524415893#524415893I think Grands Crus will have to disappoint in a big way and unequivocally prove he doesn't stay for them to choose the Ryanair over the Gold Cup. IMO he does stay 3m and he will win at least one big race prior to Cheltenham so I can't see him endingSun, 23 Sep 2012 14:39:11 -0500It's superficially similar. However, Long Run didn't get stuffed out of sight in the RSA and he got beaten by a very good horse. He also had some top class chasing form in France before he came to the UK. He's also a horse who seems to need his seasohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524414843#524414843It's superficially similar. However, Long Run didn't get stuffed out of sight in the RSA and he got beaten by a very good horse. He also had some top class chasing form in France before he came to the UK. He's also a horse who seems to need his seasoSun, 23 Sep 2012 14:11:11 -0500Probably an obvious comment, but just struck me how similar the current Grand Crus situation is with that of Long Run 2 years ago. Both had impressively won the Feltham, both then disappointed in the RSA losing to the previous years Albert Bartlett Hhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=524414259#524414259Probably an obvious comment, but just struck me how similar the current Grand Crus situation is with that of Long Run 2 years ago. Both had impressively won the Feltham, both then disappointed in the RSA losing to the previous years Albert Bartlett HSun, 23 Sep 2012 13:51:52 -0500Possible he could be top class at a distance that suits i guess,but no way is he top class yet at any distance,and he will never be top class at 3m imo.All still to prove.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=523666025#523666025Possible he could be top class at a distance that suits i guess,but no way is he top class yet at any distance,and he will never be top class at 3m imo.All still to prove.Sat, 01 Sep 2012 01:18:40 -0500Tom - very few people think the horse isn't top class. Trip is always the issue with good horses - speed blinds and deceives!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29259301/if-grand-crus-performs-like-he-did-in-the-feltham?post_id=523658317#523658317Tom - very few people think the horse isn't top class. Trip is always the issue with good horses - speed blinds and deceives!Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:47:34 -0500