New Posts For Thread: Why aren't Overturn & Oscar Whiskey in the Arkle betting?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-bettingI thought they were both going jumping this year?I can see them in the Jewson as well - OW because he's in the same yard as Simonsig and Overturn because of what happened with Peddlers Cross/Sprinter Sacre. Both will surely get 2 1/2m over fences.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521951461#521951461I can see them in the Jewson as well - OW because he's in the same yard as Simonsig and Overturn because of what happened with Peddlers Cross/Sprinter Sacre. Both will surely get 2 1/2m over fences.Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:32:19 -0500Either of them could easily end up in the Jewson, so its a no no for me at the moment.Of the top 3 in the market, I'd be surprised if all 3 were in the Arkle line up on the dayhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521939991#521939991Either of them could easily end up in the Jewson, so its a no no for me at the moment.Of the top 3 in the market, I'd be surprised if all 3 were in the Arkle line up on the dayMon, 16 Jul 2012 11:53:03 -0500agree with above post although in bookies had there conkers done in RSA where all the fancied horses pre season where there in MarchGrand Crus (about 8s pre seson)Bobs Worth (10)First Lieutenant (12)Surprised this wasnt mentioned more last season.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521846365#521846365agree with above post although in bookies had there conkers done in RSA where all the fancied horses pre season where there in MarchGrand Crus (about 8s pre seson)Bobs Worth (10)First Lieutenant (12)Surprised this wasnt mentioned more last season.Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:53:48 -050010/3 and 6/1 ffsThis time last year Champion Hurdle runner up Peddler's Cross was 8/1, Supreme winner Al Ferof was about 10s and the winner was about 12-14/1!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521842023#52184202310/3 and 6/1 ffsThis time last year Champion Hurdle runner up Peddler's Cross was 8/1, Supreme winner Al Ferof was about 10s and the winner was about 12-14/1!Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:04:50 -0500https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521818247#521818247Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:33:54 -0500Arkle Trophy - Winner 2013-03-12 Favourites:Simonsig (10/3) , Oscar Whisky (6) , Overturn (12) , Captain Conan (14) , Montbazon (14) , Oscars Well (14) , Cinders And Ashes (16) , Allure Of Illusion (20) , Arvika Ligeonniere (20) , Colour Squadron (2https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521811149#521811149Arkle Trophy - Winner 2013-03-12 Favourites:Simonsig (10/3) , Oscar Whisky (6) , Overturn (12) , Captain Conan (14) , Montbazon (14) , Oscars Well (14) , Cinders And Ashes (16) , Allure Of Illusion (20) , Arvika Ligeonniere (20) , Colour Squadron (2Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:23:49 -0500I see oddschecker has introduced Overturn in the markets at 12-1 2nd fav behind Simonsig. No sign of Oscar Whisky who I'd imagine would be shorter.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521630371#521630371I see oddschecker has introduced Overturn in the markets at 12-1 2nd fav behind Simonsig. No sign of Oscar Whisky who I'd imagine would be shorter.Sat, 07 Jul 2012 07:05:58 -0500Also, if he's ever going to try chasing they can't wait much longer.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521435615#521435615Also, if he's ever going to try chasing they can't wait much longer.Sun, 01 Jul 2012 07:04:18 -0500That's a good question Sageform and Ihad a similar thought. It's presumably about opportunities - he's currently 8 so likely to start declining as a hurdler. He's rated 112 on the flat so not well handicapped and (probably) not good enough to take tohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521435593#521435593That's a good question Sageform and Ihad a similar thought. It's presumably about opportunities - he's currently 8 so likely to start declining as a hurdler. He's rated 112 on the flat so not well handicapped and (probably) not good enough to take toSun, 01 Jul 2012 07:03:38 -0500If he was mine, i would stick to hurdles and top class flat races. Why risk him over fences?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29198427/why-arent-overturn-oscar-whiskey-in-the-arkle-betting?post_id=521433269#521433269If he was mine, i would stick to hurdles and top class flat races. Why risk him over fences?Sun, 01 Jul 2012 04:55:11 -0500