New Posts For Thread: grands crushttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-cruswhats the feeling on grands crus next year?6/1 for king george 20/1 for the gold cupWILL make the KG his own for next few years, injury free of course. would beat Bobsworth every time round Kempton but never around Cheltenham. The new One Man imo.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=523359013#523359013WILL make the KG his own for next few years, injury free of course. would beat Bobsworth every time round Kempton but never around Cheltenham. The new One Man imo.Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:53:53 -0500We will let time tell, though your point about the slow run stayers behind BB is interesting but I dont agree with it as GC stayed well enough over 3m on much softer ground earlier that season and looked anything like a non stayer at 3m to me.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521616041#521616041We will let time tell, though your point about the slow run stayers behind BB is interesting but I dont agree with it as GC stayed well enough over 3m on much softer ground earlier that season and looked anything like a non stayer at 3m to me.Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:23:44 -0500IMO GC don't stay 3m in a truly run race so Stayers hurdle is a no hope for him. The one he came second in was so slowly run that he almost got home. So that leaves the Champion Hurdle at 8 years old - possible I guess.Think the 2m4f division chasinghttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521612649#521612649IMO GC don't stay 3m in a truly run race so Stayers hurdle is a no hope for him. The one he came second in was so slowly run that he almost got home. So that leaves the Champion Hurdle at 8 years old - possible I guess.Think the 2m4f division chasingFri, 06 Jul 2012 14:51:10 -0500Racingguru the next few years chasing division at 2,2 1/2 +3m appears to be the strongest in yonks whereas the hurdling divisions at 2+3m are very open and the best hope for G Cru to win a championship race is in the stayers,granted lots of nice potshttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521611795#521611795Racingguru the next few years chasing division at 2,2 1/2 +3m appears to be the strongest in yonks whereas the hurdling divisions at 2+3m are very open and the best hope for G Cru to win a championship race is in the stayers,granted lots of nice potsFri, 06 Jul 2012 14:26:27 -0500What's the idea behind hurdling? He jumps really well and more trip options chasing. Be really daft to go back hurdling.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521587869#521587869What's the idea behind hurdling? He jumps really well and more trip options chasing. Be really daft to go back hurdling.Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:52:57 -0500Possibly to early to write him off but its back to hurdling for this one(Pipe will give him one more chance in a top chase first) for me and another crack at a BB who will be another year older and POSSIBLY a little more vulnerable.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521580987#521580987Possibly to early to write him off but its back to hurdling for this one(Pipe will give him one more chance in a top chase first) for me and another crack at a BB who will be another year older and POSSIBLY a little more vulnerable.Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:33:35 -0500Can't see him ever beating Bobs Worth at Cheltenham over 3mhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521562489#521562489Can't see him ever beating Bobs Worth at Cheltenham over 3mThu, 05 Jul 2012 04:52:05 -0500I think rsa was grans crus running.As we all know the contrast between Kempton and Cheltenham is immense.I think Grans Crus is a 10lb better horse than Bobs worth at Kempton,but I think Bobs worth is at least a 10lb horse better at cheltenham and thehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521396011#521396011I think rsa was grans crus running.As we all know the contrast between Kempton and Cheltenham is immense.I think Grans Crus is a 10lb better horse than Bobs worth at Kempton,but I think Bobs worth is at least a 10lb horse better at cheltenham and theFri, 29 Jun 2012 20:36:41 -0500I suspect the RSA wasn't near GC's peak performance but there's a horses for courses arguement as well WellC - Bobsworth looks like one of those horses who's a stone better at Cheltenham than anywhere else (and also perhpas benefitted quite a lot frohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521394213#521394213I suspect the RSA wasn't near GC's peak performance but there's a horses for courses arguement as well WellC - Bobsworth looks like one of those horses who's a stone better at Cheltenham than anywhere else (and also perhpas benefitted quite a lot froFri, 29 Jun 2012 18:49:18 -0500With the Ryanair always being an option, he definitely isn't an antepost bet for the Gold Cup.It depends whether you choose to believe David Pipe when he says he scoped badly after the race. I personally find it hard to believe that there was a 23 lhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/29072811/grands-crus?post_id=521385813#521385813With the Ryanair always being an option, he definitely isn't an antepost bet for the Gold Cup.It depends whether you choose to believe David Pipe when he says he scoped badly after the race. I personally find it hard to believe that there was a 23 lFri, 29 Jun 2012 14:03:33 -0500