New Posts For Thread: looks like the betting is telling us where grands crus and others are going..horse racing, shambles.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shamblesall the manure all year and still the trainers cannot come out publicly and say what there horses targets are...wouldn't happen in other sports...racing is a joke in this regardas punters - we have to look at the betting, because the top trainers ofhow do you read the markets,on any normal day this forum would be accusing the connections of sed horses off ramping up the odds of grand cru , boston bob,etc for gold cup,neptune etc,so why in this case do we assume the oppositehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517364707#517364707how do you read the markets,on any normal day this forum would be accusing the connections of sed horses off ramping up the odds of grand cru , boston bob,etc for gold cup,neptune etc,so why in this case do we assume the oppositeSat, 10 Mar 2012 04:07:46 -0600But when they are positive about a horse going for a particular race when they have options (which is what you want) they get castigated if they change their mind ie P Cross. It's no wonder they don't wanna say "well we if the ground is this we'll ruhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517364613#517364613But when they are positive about a horse going for a particular race when they have options (which is what you want) they get castigated if they change their mind ie P Cross. It's no wonder they don't wanna say "well we if the ground is this we'll ruSat, 10 Mar 2012 04:02:09 -0600yes am used to it...thats why i'm moaning...david pipe on the telly...horse is flying and all year they thought about gold cup and unless a horse is injured we aren't going for a race...what a load of tosh...https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517364183#517364183yes am used to it...thats why i'm moaning...david pipe on the telly...horse is flying and all year they thought about gold cup and unless a horse is injured we aren't going for a race...what a load of tosh...Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:39:51 -0600totally agree mate,it aint right,but i think we need to get used to it mate.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517364059#517364059totally agree mate,it aint right,but i think we need to get used to it mate.Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:33:27 -0600morning budd...well personally when I have to look at a betting market to decide whether he is a runner or not its pretty sad imo...we aren't 3 weeks from the races we are days...yes agree keep options open but at least say what your preferred race ihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517364017#517364017morning budd...well personally when I have to look at a betting market to decide whether he is a runner or not its pretty sad imo...we aren't 3 weeks from the races we are days...yes agree keep options open but at least say what your preferred race iSat, 10 Mar 2012 03:30:43 -0600for a sport that is struggling to bring in new followers things like this do nothing to encourage support - very short term thinking on some trainers behalfs for me with only Alan King coming out with any credit from the big guns latelyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517363973#517363973for a sport that is struggling to bring in new followers things like this do nothing to encourage support - very short term thinking on some trainers behalfs for me with only Alan King coming out with any credit from the big guns latelySat, 10 Mar 2012 03:28:06 -0600morning harry,i can see a case for both sides mate,trainers want to do right by their owners and sometimes it may mean waiting till last possible moment to see other decs,eg Grand crus may be waiting on Kauto.Boston Bob waiting for ground?Not alwayshttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517363805#517363805morning harry,i can see a case for both sides mate,trainers want to do right by their owners and sometimes it may mean waiting till last possible moment to see other decs,eg Grand crus may be waiting on Kauto.Boston Bob waiting for ground?Not alwaysSat, 10 Mar 2012 03:19:02 -0600all the manure all year and still the trainers cannot come out publicly and say what there horses targets are...wouldn't happen in other sports...racing is a joke in this regardas punters - we have to look at the betting, because the top trainers ofhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28984051/looks-like-the-betting-is-telling-us-where-grands-crus-and-others-are-goinghorse-racing-shambles?post_id=517363641#517363641all the manure all year and still the trainers cannot come out publicly and say what there horses targets are...wouldn't happen in other sports...racing is a joke in this regardas punters - we have to look at the betting, because the top trainers ofSat, 10 Mar 2012 03:10:49 -0600