New Posts For Thread: Pipe want Great Endeavour in Handicap - Owner wants him in Ryanairhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanairI'm near 100% certain Pipe said if it was up to him he'd run in Handicap but owner wants him to run in Ryanair. I can't find the quote or the video can anyone help? I think it was a week ago.people have aid repeatedly that Great Endeavour was over the top in the Spinal Research but I don't buy that at all. He just took off too soon and breasted a fence and then later got slammed in the ribs. No one can say what would have happened if neihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517378795#517378795people have aid repeatedly that Great Endeavour was over the top in the Spinal Research but I don't buy that at all. He just took off too soon and breasted a fence and then later got slammed in the ribs. No one can say what would have happened if neiSat, 10 Mar 2012 11:51:53 -0600I think its really good that both harry and judo have such a strong feeling about the horse, can put in writing their rationale and at 14s do have a decent bet in an open race. All of the apparent grade 1 horse do have questions to answer so if he dohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517378463#517378463I think its really good that both harry and judo have such a strong feeling about the horse, can put in writing their rationale and at 14s do have a decent bet in an open race. All of the apparent grade 1 horse do have questions to answer so if he doSat, 10 Mar 2012 11:42:17 -0600Harry, in what way am I trying to force my opinion on anyone? I wrote one line where I said he'll probably run into one too good. You're the one writing big essays so I'd say you're the one forcing your opinion on me.I'm of the same view as Budd.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517377309#517377309Harry, in what way am I trying to force my opinion on anyone? I wrote one line where I said he'll probably run into one too good. You're the one writing big essays so I'd say you're the one forcing your opinion on me.I'm of the same view as Budd.Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:07:37 -0600IC won the Ryanair same season he won the PP STS, then the CGC the year after. He was just out of novice stage though so was more progressive than GE. Don't really see how GE can beat all of these to be honest, though their is likely to be a much fhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517371693#517371693IC won the Ryanair same season he won the PP STS, then the CGC the year after. He was just out of novice stage though so was more progressive than GE. Don't really see how GE can beat all of these to be honest, though their is likely to be a much fSat, 10 Mar 2012 08:31:10 -0600He's still 12s at Billies thats big I would think 9s or 8s represent his chances. Paddy Power Gold Cup winners in the past have really good records going on to the Festival. Imperial Commander won the race off 10-7 and went on to win the Gold Cup. Ouhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517369743#517369743He's still 12s at Billies thats big I would think 9s or 8s represent his chances. Paddy Power Gold Cup winners in the past have really good records going on to the Festival. Imperial Commander won the race off 10-7 and went on to win the Gold Cup. OuSat, 10 Mar 2012 07:25:19 -0600Harry,you just listed those i think are better horses than GE,and questioned them with doubts.Thers also doubts about GE main one being whether he can improve enough to beat all those horses.And theres no doubt he has to do that to figure here.Maybehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517360815#517360815Harry,you just listed those i think are better horses than GE,and questioned them with doubts.Thers also doubts about GE main one being whether he can improve enough to beat all those horses.And theres no doubt he has to do that to figure here.MaybeSat, 10 Mar 2012 00:08:50 -0600tom and judo hit the nail on the head here....good write ups by both...the thing i think that is annoying people and annoying me to an extent is the fact he won the paddy power off of 147...this for some is way below top class form but for me he showhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517357903#517357903tom and judo hit the nail on the head here....good write ups by both...the thing i think that is annoying people and annoying me to an extent is the fact he won the paddy power off of 147...this for some is way below top class form but for me he showFri, 09 Mar 2012 21:34:54 -0600His form figures at cheltenham are 03162F10 so he has a 50% place record on the track and a 25% win record. I backed him at the open meeting, on that occasion he jumped and travelled like a stag except that he nearly took one fence with him on the shttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517354107#517354107His form figures at cheltenham are 03162F10 so he has a 50% place record on the track and a 25% win record. I backed him at the open meeting, on that occasion he jumped and travelled like a stag except that he nearly took one fence with him on the sFri, 09 Mar 2012 18:55:15 -0600His form figures at cheltenham are 03162F10 so he has a 50% place record on the track and a 25% win record. I backed him at the open meeting, on that occasion he jumped and travelled like a stag except that he nearly took one fence with him on the shttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517354105#517354105His form figures at cheltenham are 03162F10 so he has a 50% place record on the track and a 25% win record. I backed him at the open meeting, on that occasion he jumped and travelled like a stag except that he nearly took one fence with him on the sFri, 09 Mar 2012 18:55:08 -0600I have stated my case several times for both Great Endeavour and Medermit who I have backed at 14s and 16 s for this race but I will have another go. Of course, this could all go wrong but there is a strong case to be made.1. Great Endeavour producedhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28981175/pipe-want-great-endeavour-in-handicap---owner-wants-him-in-ryanair?post_id=517351769#517351769I have stated my case several times for both Great Endeavour and Medermit who I have backed at 14s and 16 s for this race but I will have another go. Of course, this could all go wrong but there is a strong case to be made.1. Great Endeavour producedFri, 09 Mar 2012 17:35:44 -0600