New Posts For Thread: Riverside Theatre-Why not run in the Gold Cup?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cupi think most would agree this seasons GC lacks real strenght in depth,from what ive seen RT has only tried 3 miles once,which was last seasons KG when 2nd behind LR,i dont really think that conclusively told us if he stayed or not,i dont really underSome people are never happy.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=517564161#517564161Some people are never happy.Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:08:45 -0500Looks like he wants at least 3 miles to mehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=517561015#517561015Looks like he wants at least 3 miles to meThu, 15 Mar 2012 09:53:46 -0500i always have a quick glance at the sire of horses i intend to back,especially in the jumps game,i remember reading somewhere that Daylami has never sired a horse that has won over further than 3 miles,So if i see a Daylami in a hurdle or chase overhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516659685#516659685i always have a quick glance at the sire of horses i intend to back,especially in the jumps game,i remember reading somewhere that Daylami has never sired a horse that has won over further than 3 miles,So if i see a Daylami in a hurdle or chase overTue, 21 Feb 2012 16:18:25 -0600Indeed The two main reasons I use this forum are to learn new things and to clarify my thinking on things, so stuff like this is always enlightening.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516645675#516645675Indeed The two main reasons I use this forum are to learn new things and to clarify my thinking on things, so stuff like this is always enlightening.Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:21:16 -0600strontiumLike yourself my first preference is always what my eyes tell me. Under some circumstances I'll look at how a race was run and then time how they ran the final few furlongs compared to others. Is it running on strongly or tying up against thhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516645169#516645169strontiumLike yourself my first preference is always what my eyes tell me. Under some circumstances I'll look at how a race was run and then time how they ran the final few furlongs compared to others. Is it running on strongly or tying up against thTue, 21 Feb 2012 11:10:43 -0600I doubt many biology students would argue with that, dtamutants. It's quite hard to reconcile it with some sires' records though. There are definitely plenty of them that have a strong distance requirement with their progeny, which correlates to thhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516644055#516644055I doubt many biology students would argue with that, dtamutants. It's quite hard to reconcile it with some sires' records though. There are definitely plenty of them that have a strong distance requirement with their progeny, which correlates to thTue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:21 -0600Eternal - it's almost certainly something I don't make enough use of. I'll rarely even look at the pedigree outside of bumpers and novice hurdles. I suppose with steeplechasers my (subconscious) view is that I'd rather judge them from what they've dohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516643959#516643959Eternal - it's almost certainly something I don't make enough use of. I'll rarely even look at the pedigree outside of bumpers and novice hurdles. I suppose with steeplechasers my (subconscious) view is that I'd rather judge them from what they've doTue, 21 Feb 2012 10:42:48 -0600All fair points but in relation to your second paragraph when you have prolific sires who fire out hundreds of offspring don't you think it relevant when you have the same ones repeatedly siring certain types who do well in top class staying chases ahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516643725#516643725All fair points but in relation to your second paragraph when you have prolific sires who fire out hundreds of offspring don't you think it relevant when you have the same ones repeatedly siring certain types who do well in top class staying chases aTue, 21 Feb 2012 10:37:47 -0600I might be missing something here, but isn't the point just that a good stallion will sire hundereds of foals so we have a good idea what their characteristics tend to be. Whereas a mare will only have a handful of foals so there is no statistical sihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516642147#516642147I might be missing something here, but isn't the point just that a good stallion will sire hundereds of foals so we have a good idea what their characteristics tend to be. Whereas a mare will only have a handful of foals so there is no statistical siTue, 21 Feb 2012 10:03:46 -0600The "fact" that stamina comes mostly from the dam's side is a complete myth. It was proved (by Mendel?) hundreds of years ago that traits are inherited equally from both parents.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28935927/riverside-theatre-why-not-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=516641653#516641653The "fact" that stamina comes mostly from the dam's side is a complete myth. It was proved (by Mendel?) hundreds of years ago that traits are inherited equally from both parents.Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:53:14 -0600