New Posts For Thread: Champion Hurdle Betting without Hurricane Flyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-flyRock on Ruby looks overpriced @ 9/1 (wh) to me. For me his newbury victory was the best piece of form shown by any UK hurdler this season . He didn't look in great nick prior to his Kempton loss and I think the Newbury victory left its mark. NichollMy view of Overturn is that over hurdles, 2 1/2m on good or faster ground is ideal form him and theAintree hurdle would be his best target. From what connections have said they have no intention of goingdown this route. When he beat Binocular at Newchttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516971113#516971113My view of Overturn is that over hurdles, 2 1/2m on good or faster ground is ideal form him and theAintree hurdle would be his best target. From what connections have said they have no intention of goingdown this route. When he beat Binocular at NewcWed, 29 Feb 2012 06:44:05 -0600He was used as a pacemaker for Peddlars Cross.I should add this is a question of price - I expect Bino & HF will beat him. RoR and Zark are probably close to him and may well beat him. But 20/1 in the w/o HF market seems like a good price when therehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516953465#516953465He was used as a pacemaker for Peddlars Cross.I should add this is a question of price - I expect Bino & HF will beat him. RoR and Zark are probably close to him and may well beat him. But 20/1 in the w/o HF market seems like a good price when thereTue, 28 Feb 2012 16:33:44 -0600What happened to him last year iyo?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516953251#516953251What happened to him last year iyo?Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:29:19 -0600Second rated on Topspeed, 5th rated on RPR, only has to finish in the first 4 (if HF wins/places) for this bet, will give his running, will stay, is consistent, has course form. What's not to like? I think the horse is seriously underrated in this rahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516953027#516953027Second rated on Topspeed, 5th rated on RPR, only has to finish in the first 4 (if HF wins/places) for this bet, will give his running, will stay, is consistent, has course form. What's not to like? I think the horse is seriously underrated in this raTue, 28 Feb 2012 16:23:20 -0600Otis, the stats are very encouraging for Overturn. As I've said elsewhere (mostly in the Zarkandar for CH thread) it is more than 2 decades since a horse won the CH with less than 15 starts under rules or less than 6 wins. Most Champs also had a cahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516952939#516952939Otis, the stats are very encouraging for Overturn. As I've said elsewhere (mostly in the Zarkandar for CH thread) it is more than 2 decades since a horse won the CH with less than 15 starts under rules or less than 6 wins. Most Champs also had a caTue, 28 Feb 2012 16:21:09 -0600Aren't good enough I should sayhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516952873#516952873Aren't good enough I should sayTue, 28 Feb 2012 16:19:12 -0600I dont think Overturn is anywhere near good enough to challenge the top two in this race, and I would be surprised if at least one of ROR, OW and maybe Zark are good enough to finish clear of it.Even if Overturn goes well fresh I wouldn't think it wohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516952825#516952825I dont think Overturn is anywhere near good enough to challenge the top two in this race, and I would be surprised if at least one of ROR, OW and maybe Zark are good enough to finish clear of it.Even if Overturn goes well fresh I wouldn't think it woTue, 28 Feb 2012 16:18:15 -0600Otis, I agree, a cracking bet.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516952583#516952583Otis, I agree, a cracking bet.Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:13:17 -0600I'm struggling to work out why Overturn is 40/1 in this race with HF (has comfortably beaten Binocular already this season when freshbut 20/1 w/o HF e/w looks like a cracker to me! Had a busy Nov and December, had a hard race a chelt and did very welhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516947825#516947825I'm struggling to work out why Overturn is 40/1 in this race with HF (has comfortably beaten Binocular already this season when freshbut 20/1 w/o HF e/w looks like a cracker to me! Had a busy Nov and December, had a hard race a chelt and did very welTue, 28 Feb 2012 14:33:56 -0600The performance of Champion Hurdle contender Binocular when winning the Kingwell Hurdle at Wincanton also delighted Henderson, which the trainer partly attributed to a wind operation the horse had between Kempton on December 26 and Wincanton."Binoculhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28916233/champion-hurdle-betting-without-hurricane-fly?post_id=516945643#516945643The performance of Champion Hurdle contender Binocular when winning the Kingwell Hurdle at Wincanton also delighted Henderson, which the trainer partly attributed to a wind operation the horse had between Kempton on December 26 and Wincanton."BinoculTue, 28 Feb 2012 13:39:30 -0600