New Posts For Thread: carruthershttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carrutherswill he run in gold cup or where, do you think he worth a few quid in place market,currently trading about 30That's true Shockster, it lumped down and got very soft during the afternoon. Thankfully, as that probably saved Kauto Star when he took that horrific fall.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515900355#515900355That's true Shockster, it lumped down and got very soft during the afternoon. Thankfully, as that probably saved Kauto Star when he took that horrific fall.Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:17:39 -0600Regarding Midnight Chase and Carruthers, 2 horses I like very much. I would have to say that I could only ever see Carruthers beating Midnight Chase if the ground was very soft. On good going IMO MC would beat him every time. Can't imagine Cheltenhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515889869#515889869Regarding Midnight Chase and Carruthers, 2 horses I like very much. I would have to say that I could only ever see Carruthers beating Midnight Chase if the ground was very soft. On good going IMO MC would beat him every time. Can't imagine CheltenFri, 03 Feb 2012 02:45:52 -0600TLU - that is an excellent point about the Gold Cup of two years ago...it may be way off the mark but I like the 'evidence' you've stated...it's hard to dispute, and proffers a case for that over-rated hound Cooldine for The National, that many on hehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515884103#515884103TLU - that is an excellent point about the Gold Cup of two years ago...it may be way off the mark but I like the 'evidence' you've stated...it's hard to dispute, and proffers a case for that over-rated hound Cooldine for The National, that many on heThu, 02 Feb 2012 19:33:28 -0600Strontium - I think he's a very clever jumper, as he seems to hit many of his fences without losing too much ground.I've noticed this trait on many occasions, and he often lands awkwardly, though strangely, without losing too much momentum.Carruthershttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515883873#515883873Strontium - I think he's a very clever jumper, as he seems to hit many of his fences without losing too much ground.I've noticed this trait on many occasions, and he often lands awkwardly, though strangely, without losing too much momentum.CarruthersThu, 02 Feb 2012 19:22:38 -0600Hugh - Harsh to say midnight isn't fluent over his fences - for me, he jumped brilliantly on Saturday. (Agree though he's some way off the top bunch - I don't see why he'd be much closer to the principals than last year)https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515883449#515883449Hugh - Harsh to say midnight isn't fluent over his fences - for me, he jumped brilliantly on Saturday. (Agree though he's some way off the top bunch - I don't see why he'd be much closer to the principals than last year)Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:08:46 -0600cheers lads to be honest he will probably carry 5/10 ew as im a big fan of him and mattie bacholer has been a lucky jock for me,lol,yep as i have got him on big prices for small money.....once again thanks for your inputhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515871867#515871867cheers lads to be honest he will probably carry 5/10 ew as im a big fan of him and mattie bacholer has been a lucky jock for me,lol,yep as i have got him on big prices for small money.....once again thanks for your inputThu, 02 Feb 2012 13:47:31 -0600The Gold Cup of 2 years ago was absolutely brutal, some decent horses have taken a long time to recover their form after it. for me, Denman wasn't the same horse after, Carruthers and Calgary Bay needed a year to fully recover, it could be argued thhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515871439#515871439The Gold Cup of 2 years ago was absolutely brutal, some decent horses have taken a long time to recover their form after it. for me, Denman wasn't the same horse after, Carruthers and Calgary Bay needed a year to fully recover, it could be argued thThu, 02 Feb 2012 13:36:58 -0600Does anyone else think that Carruthers is like a poor man's Midnight Chase?Both have a knack for negotiating the fences though neither are particularly fluent, but they have got big engines and loads of heart.A pair of admirable chasers, though for mhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515870559#515870559Does anyone else think that Carruthers is like a poor man's Midnight Chase?Both have a knack for negotiating the fences though neither are particularly fluent, but they have got big engines and loads of heart.A pair of admirable chasers, though for mThu, 02 Feb 2012 13:14:52 -0600Ah, sorry.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515870231#515870231Ah, sorry.Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:06:47 -0600Yes he took the field along and was just starting to fade when Kauto fell. Wouldn't have had to endure that finish if Kauto had stood up.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28893051/carruthers?post_id=515870167#515870167Yes he took the field along and was just starting to fade when Kauto fell. Wouldn't have had to endure that finish if Kauto had stood up.Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:04:08 -0600