New Posts For Thread: Grands Crus not going for Argento but could still go Gold?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-goldSurely if they had any pretentions of a novice chaser going for the Gold Cup their horse needs to be getting involved in a competitive trial at Cheltenham outside of novice company?The horse's welfare is obviously not being considered if he is goingyes shame for the horse and his followers...was injured early in the RSA i would say and never went a yard...the horse still hurts as much as when the great filly six perfections was given the ride from hell by the idiot Thulliez in the 1000 Guinnneahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515969375#515969375yes shame for the horse and his followers...was injured early in the RSA i would say and never went a yard...the horse still hurts as much as when the great filly six perfections was given the ride from hell by the idiot Thulliez in the 1000 GuinnneaSun, 05 Feb 2012 05:11:07 -0600Yes see the difference, that's why I said not particularly important. Punchestowns was supposed to win 5 gold cups though as I remember it ;)https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515969219#515969219Yes see the difference, that's why I said not particularly important. Punchestowns was supposed to win 5 gold cups though as I remember it ;)Sun, 05 Feb 2012 05:03:14 -0600thievesThe only thing I will say to that argument as a punchestowns follower (who could of made me rich - s*d) is Punchestowns although of similar profile was never as fluent at his fences as this fellow, eluded to by budd...He certainly looks a nathttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515969023#515969023thievesThe only thing I will say to that argument as a punchestowns follower (who could of made me rich - s*d) is Punchestowns although of similar profile was never as fluent at his fences as this fellow, eluded to by budd...He certainly looks a natSun, 05 Feb 2012 04:55:21 -0600GC looks a better jumper than Punch was at same stage though.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515968753#515968753GC looks a better jumper than Punch was at same stage though.Sun, 05 Feb 2012 04:42:18 -0600Just a quick point, and not a particularly important one, but has anyone else noticed the astonishing similarity in the profiles of Grands Crus now and Punchestowns 2 years ago? Both French bred 7yos who's class and stamina credentials are based onhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515968647#515968647Just a quick point, and not a particularly important one, but has anyone else noticed the astonishing similarity in the profiles of Grands Crus now and Punchestowns 2 years ago? Both French bred 7yos who's class and stamina credentials are based onSun, 05 Feb 2012 04:37:41 -0600One thing that is certainly certain Luke and that is he won't lead...that is a certainty...https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515968453#515968453One thing that is certainly certain Luke and that is he won't lead...that is a certainty...Sun, 05 Feb 2012 04:27:34 -0600After reading all this some very good points I honestly believe that this horse will lead and and destroy the rsa field come march and then be in a very solid position come next year for the gold cup. Pipe would have no excuses to make then come marchttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515967073#515967073After reading all this some very good points I honestly believe that this horse will lead and and destroy the rsa field come march and then be in a very solid position come next year for the gold cup. Pipe would have no excuses to make then come marcSun, 05 Feb 2012 02:55:02 -0600The key for me is working out the important trends and following the logicThis applies to whatever you consider about a race or a horse. What you are talking about is "significance" and it is, in my opinion, the single most powerful tool in the puntehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515944641#515944641The key for me is working out the important trends and following the logicThis applies to whatever you consider about a race or a horse. What you are talking about is "significance" and it is, in my opinion, the single most powerful tool in the punteSat, 04 Feb 2012 12:03:34 -0600I think so stront, though couldnt be absolutely certain without looking! I do no one thing though, plenty of dosh has been won by me backing under in the distances when BB has been running over the past couple of years!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515944261#515944261I think so stront, though couldnt be absolutely certain without looking! I do no one thing though, plenty of dosh has been won by me backing under in the distances when BB has been running over the past couple of years!Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:52:17 -0600Just on the subject of feltham winners having a poor record in the RSA...Placed horses in the Feltham however have a very good record in the RSA with maybe the sharp track not suiting them entirely and Cheltenham being an totally different propositiohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28877159/grands-crus-not-going-for-argento-but-could-still-go-gold?post_id=515944113#515944113Just on the subject of feltham winners having a poor record in the RSA...Placed horses in the Feltham however have a very good record in the RSA with maybe the sharp track not suiting them entirely and Cheltenham being an totally different propositioSat, 04 Feb 2012 11:46:15 -0600