New Posts For Thread: anybody care to guess the plans for Kauto and Denman this season?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-seasongonna be an interesting season ahead for both,i can see one, if not both been retired before the season is finished i really hope im wrong and both have good seasons,just cant see it happening thoughPersonally speaking I would love to see Denman in the Betfairhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=507508715#507508715Personally speaking I would love to see Denman in the BetfairMon, 03 Oct 2011 15:18:59 -0500Fair enough I was just trying to ponder that there may not be much handicap advantage after all for 1833 in Denman also running if that means 1833 has an awkward weight.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506301693#506301693Fair enough I was just trying to ponder that there may not be much handicap advantage after all for 1833 in Denman also running if that means 1833 has an awkward weight.Tue, 06 Sep 2011 04:06:18 -0500strot, ruby said before he thought the horse was useless, i dont see much in his form to change that view tbh. id be pretty sure that if denman and 1833 were both running in the hennessy that ruby wud ride denmanhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506301557#506301557strot, ruby said before he thought the horse was useless, i dont see much in his form to change that view tbh. id be pretty sure that if denman and 1833 were both running in the hennessy that ruby wud ride denmanTue, 06 Sep 2011 03:55:16 -0500FFT - I don't entirely agree, on the basis that Denman is really well suited by 3m 2 at Newbury. He's also used to carrying 11st 12 (the actual weight carried is often understated as a factor relative to weight differences). Denman is in the same ownhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506300647#506300647FFT - I don't entirely agree, on the basis that Denman is really well suited by 3m 2 at Newbury. He's also used to carrying 11st 12 (the actual weight carried is often understated as a factor relative to weight differences). Denman is in the same ownTue, 06 Sep 2011 02:49:22 -0500Resner - think you are probably right about Down Royal. In terms of Haydock, Kauto has won virtually everywhere, but i am not sure he's always looked his rolls-royce best at Haydock.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506299369#506299369Resner - think you are probably right about Down Royal. In terms of Haydock, Kauto has won virtually everywhere, but i am not sure he's always looked his rolls-royce best at Haydock.Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:53:33 -05001833 needs as much help as he can get to win the Hennessey,he aint very good from what i have seen.Denman- Lexus,Gold CupKS- Down Royal,KG,Gold Cup.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506298493#5062984931833 needs as much help as he can get to win the Hennessey,he aint very good from what i have seen.Denman- Lexus,Gold CupKS- Down Royal,KG,Gold Cup.Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:54:11 -0500They said similar for Denman's first Hennessey when Kauto Star had an entry, would have left the rest of the field out of the handicap iircNicholls would get crucified if they did thathttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506287255#506287255They said similar for Denman's first Hennessey when Kauto Star had an entry, would have left the rest of the field out of the handicap iircNicholls would get crucified if they did thatMon, 05 Sep 2011 17:21:40 -0500They could always take him out in the Morning of the racehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506286651#506286651They could always take him out in the Morning of the raceMon, 05 Sep 2011 17:07:47 -0500Denman goes for the Lexus than Gold CupSurely Nicholls and connections would have too much respect for Denman to put him in a handicap for the benefit of another horse? At his age as well can't be too good for him to give lumps away to younger improvhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506286527#506286527Denman goes for the Lexus than Gold CupSurely Nicholls and connections would have too much respect for Denman to put him in a handicap for the benefit of another horse? At his age as well can't be too good for him to give lumps away to younger improvMon, 05 Sep 2011 17:05:26 -0500Vectis - yes. That's why I think D may run in the Hennessey (which is a race and track that plays to his own strengths anyway).Resner - quite right. Though that seems far too logical for most horse trainers.OTS - He's won the race three times. How muhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28251619/anybody-care-to-guess-the-plans-for-kauto-and-denman-this-season?post_id=506283351#506283351Vectis - yes. That's why I think D may run in the Hennessey (which is a race and track that plays to his own strengths anyway).Resner - quite right. Though that seems far too logical for most horse trainers.OTS - He's won the race three times. How muMon, 05 Sep 2011 15:51:46 -0500