New Posts For Thread: Are these the worst Novice renewals for some time?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-timeCan't help thinking that they could be. Especially the RSA which really lacks the sparkle of recent years - same goes for the Arkle IMO.Not to say they won't be great races, but can't get that excited about either of them - and they are usually my 2Doesn't appear to be a superstar in the Arkle but the race is always a great spectacle. If the hype about Sprinter Sacre is right, then we'll see one in 2012!The RSA can be a hard race on young horses and many trainers don't like it. Time For Ruperthttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487465797#487465797Doesn't appear to be a superstar in the Arkle but the race is always a great spectacle. If the hype about Sprinter Sacre is right, then we'll see one in 2012!The RSA can be a hard race on young horses and many trainers don't like it. Time For RupertMon, 28 Feb 2011 05:18:46 -0600I'd back Cue Card for the Champion Hurdle and Time For Rupert for the Gold Cup this year if they'd run in them so I can't agree with this at all!Two miles chasers are a dying breed; we'll never see the likes of Moscow Flyer and Co, and a few of the chttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487465265#487465265I'd back Cue Card for the Champion Hurdle and Time For Rupert for the Gold Cup this year if they'd run in them so I can't agree with this at all!Two miles chasers are a dying breed; we'll never see the likes of Moscow Flyer and Co, and a few of the cMon, 28 Feb 2011 05:11:26 -0600All the Cheltenham races go through good and bad spells.The novice hurdle races look up to scratch on quality - maybe a little lacking in depth but some nice prospects all the same.Without Time For Rupert the RSA would be looking very ordinary imo (uhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487465057#487465057All the Cheltenham races go through good and bad spells.The novice hurdle races look up to scratch on quality - maybe a little lacking in depth but some nice prospects all the same.Without Time For Rupert the RSA would be looking very ordinary imo (uMon, 28 Feb 2011 05:08:13 -0600I think we were spoiled by a vintage Arkle last year and this one is pretty standard in comparison.In all the novice events you'll never really know until after the race how good the races really were. Plenty of horses have gone on to bigger things thttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487464249#487464249I think we were spoiled by a vintage Arkle last year and this one is pretty standard in comparison.In all the novice events you'll never really know until after the race how good the races really were. Plenty of horses have gone on to bigger things tMon, 28 Feb 2011 04:56:57 -0600Yeah a very valid point actualy. No old rivalries to get the juices flowing.I would also add that alot of last years hurdlers didnt have their chance to shine.....because they always ran up against an hurdling machine.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487426785#487426785Yeah a very valid point actualy. No old rivalries to get the juices flowing.I would also add that alot of last years hurdlers didnt have their chance to shine.....because they always ran up against an hurdling machine.Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:45:02 -0600Another tick for the OP, both novice events hurdles and chases do not have the spark for me this yearhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487426669#487426669Another tick for the OP, both novice events hurdles and chases do not have the spark for me this yearSun, 27 Feb 2011 17:43:55 -0600...and therein lies the problem Ad Man. The perceived quality is diluted everytime they introduce these new fangled races.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487426429#487426429...and therein lies the problem Ad Man. The perceived quality is diluted everytime they introduce these new fangled races.Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:42:09 -0600Poorer Arkle than usual , not huge amount of depth hence Starluck might run ! RSA is a good race if they stand their ground the new 2m 4f race will take away from that race - the 2m Nov hurdle is top class with four quality horses in the two miles Cuhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487426077#487426077Poorer Arkle than usual , not huge amount of depth hence Starluck might run ! RSA is a good race if they stand their ground the new 2m 4f race will take away from that race - the 2m Nov hurdle is top class with four quality horses in the two miles CuSun, 27 Feb 2011 17:38:55 -0600Poorer Arkle than usual , not huge amount of depth hence Starluck might run ! RSA is a good race if they stand their ground the new 2m 4f race will take away from that race - the 2m Nov hurdle is top class with four quality horses in the two miles Cuhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487426069#487426069Poorer Arkle than usual , not huge amount of depth hence Starluck might run ! RSA is a good race if they stand their ground the new 2m 4f race will take away from that race - the 2m Nov hurdle is top class with four quality horses in the two miles CuSun, 27 Feb 2011 17:38:49 -0600I actually think it's more down to whether the horses at the top of the markets were established hurdlers that we're all so familiar with. Both races are headed by the top rated hurdlers in their respective fields, both of whom have been impressive ohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27086893/are-these-the-worst-novice-renewals-for-some-time?post_id=487425861#487425861I actually think it's more down to whether the horses at the top of the markets were established hurdlers that we're all so familiar with. Both races are headed by the top rated hurdlers in their respective fields, both of whom have been impressive oSun, 27 Feb 2011 17:37:09 -0600