https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-winNot to disrespect the other live chances in the GC but many will be clamouring over these 2 old warriors and i thought i'd put up an unbiased review of their form and genuine chances in the big race.Denman-11 yrs old in April -Irish Bred,22 RacesKauthttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=488025469#488025469My view on this is Midnight Chase will go out in front, Neptune just behind, Denman next with Kauto another couple back from that. Long Run's only chance (and I have backed him at 34s on here) is if he can travel well somewhere near to the pace. HeFri, 04 Mar 2011 15:35:07 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=488021649#488021649BonvivvyI think we will have to agree to disagree with regards to Denman. It would be great for the sport if he could come back and regain the crown but i just dont see it. The breathing op looks like a final roll of the dice by Nicholls. With DiamonFri, 04 Mar 2011 15:02:56 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=488020093#488020093cant decide on denman or kauto scarf. loved the tank from day one love it if he won it feck money he is a legendFri, 04 Mar 2011 14:50:30 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=488019413#488019413A really good discussion but with the doubts expressed over the front 3 and their relative short prices in the betting, regular punters must be looking for a couple of outsiders in this race.Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:45:27 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=487990397#487990397ThefarmerWith regard to your reading of Denmans last 2 races last year I can only presume your're reading the races completely differently to myself.At Cheltnam he was head to head with IC until the last fence when IC went on to win well by 7L(DenmanFri, 04 Mar 2011 10:29:35 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=487949701#487949701Kauto dosn't appear to be the same horse since last KG win...maybe not surprising after such a performance...running to RP rating of 192. Often hear of horses being 'bottomed'(and never being the same again) after having a hard race against a champioFri, 04 Mar 2011 01:55:39 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=487948909#487948909The problem with Denman is he only has 2 gears. He cruises then goes straight into top gear. If that top gear hasn't shaken off everything by the time they jump the last then he's going to lose because he simply won't find anything more than he's alrFri, 04 Mar 2011 01:42:16 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=487933973#487933973I agree about King Kauto, but I just have a battler's fancy for The Tank running a massive race and eyeballing the prancing young pretender 2 out(whoever that may be), who'll be made to keep finding, whose heart will be tested by a horse who has confThu, 03 Mar 2011 21:45:35 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=487932873#487932873BonVivvy. If you think there is no proof that Kauto or Denman is in decline then i am afraid that you are watching different races to everyone else. As much as i love both Kauto and Denman there comes a time when you have to stop making excuses and aThu, 03 Mar 2011 21:33:20 -0600https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/27081381/denman-and-kauto-stara-look-at-their-true-chanceseither-could-win?post_id=487850661#487850661I really do think the 11/10 - 6/5 on offer for either Imperial, Denman or Kauto to win is a great bet. You get to cheer on the old brigade, it isn't the greatest renewal and come gold cup day I think Denman and Kauto could be favourites. You won't geThu, 03 Mar 2011 09:02:59 -0600