New Posts For Thread: Voy Por Ustedes moves to Nicky Hendersons yardhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yardJon LeesVOY POR USTEDES, winner of the Champion Chase at the Cheltenham Festival in 2007, has returned to training and joined trainer Nicky Henderson.The five-time Grade 1 winner, formerly Alan King's stable star, has not been seen in action since laHi Steeple, yes, he was admirably consistent and an excellent Arkle winner, but last yr I just decided he'd had enough of the game, having been at the top for so long. Clearly, it seems, he had a physical problem. However, besides older joints and bohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482847681#482847681Hi Steeple, yes, he was admirably consistent and an excellent Arkle winner, but last yr I just decided he'd had enough of the game, having been at the top for so long. Clearly, it seems, he had a physical problem. However, besides older joints and boTue, 25 Jan 2011 15:27:48 -0600Ogeden seems to change his trainer like I change my underpants!I notice that he has a horse with Pipe now.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482846773#482846773Ogeden seems to change his trainer like I change my underpants!I notice that he has a horse with Pipe now.Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:20:20 -0600I was always a huge backer e/w with this horse even at shorter than 4/1 sometimes. He was so consistent he was only once outside the places when completing in his first 4 seasons.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482846713#482846713I was always a huge backer e/w with this horse even at shorter than 4/1 sometimes. He was so consistent he was only once outside the places when completing in his first 4 seasons.Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:19:31 -0600RC, I didn't think it was too bad 111112/21U1/221221/43121/3645: that first set being his first full season with AK.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482845297#482845297RC, I didn't think it was too bad 111112/21U1/221221/43121/3645: that first set being his first full season with AK.Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:07:19 -0600In fairness Steeple, he'd had about 25 runs in the UK prior to the start of last yr, over 5 yrs, I think most people just thought he had too many miles on the clock and had been at the top too long, and what we were seeing was just an inevitable declhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482844845#482844845In fairness Steeple, he'd had about 25 runs in the UK prior to the start of last yr, over 5 yrs, I think most people just thought he had too many miles on the clock and had been at the top too long, and what we were seeing was just an inevitable declTue, 25 Jan 2011 15:03:36 -0600I wish they would just retire him, I'm very fond of this horse and it was sad to see him like that last year.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482843489#482843489I wish they would just retire him, I'm very fond of this horse and it was sad to see him like that last year.Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:49:46 -0600VPU had 10 runs in his first season, albeit six of those in France as a three-year-old. King appeared to do little wrong with him but he's not the first high class horse from the yard to suddenly lose his form.His jumping had gone to pot and they stahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482843157#482843157VPU had 10 runs in his first season, albeit six of those in France as a three-year-old. King appeared to do little wrong with him but he's not the first high class horse from the yard to suddenly lose his form.His jumping had gone to pot and they staTue, 25 Jan 2011 14:46:37 -0600Thanks El Gran - I think i thought he may have been the other one who went to McCain's, but couldn't recall. Nicholls had a bumper horse last yr, but its now with John Wade up north (no longer in Ogden's ownership). I think i read that Ogden was cutthttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482839261#482839261Thanks El Gran - I think i thought he may have been the other one who went to McCain's, but couldn't recall. Nicholls had a bumper horse last yr, but its now with John Wade up north (no longer in Ogden's ownership). I think i read that Ogden was cuttTue, 25 Jan 2011 14:12:18 -0600Sagalyrique has left Kings and gone to Henderson too, so wouldnt surprise me if something has happened. Strange considering as King has given him the most success!I think Nicholls no longer has any horses for Ogden either now.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482836277#482836277Sagalyrique has left Kings and gone to Henderson too, so wouldnt surprise me if something has happened. Strange considering as King has given him the most success!I think Nicholls no longer has any horses for Ogden either now.Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:42:19 -0600Maybe they think he just needs a change of scenery, but i wonder if it is more than that - Chamirey has also left King's for pastures new (McCain's, and another has made the same journey this winter if i remember rightly). King did a super job with Vhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26690217/voy-por-ustedes-moves-to-nicky-hendersons-yard?post_id=482832421#482832421Maybe they think he just needs a change of scenery, but i wonder if it is more than that - Chamirey has also left King's for pastures new (McCain's, and another has made the same journey this winter if i remember rightly). King did a super job with VTue, 25 Jan 2011 13:09:57 -0600