New Posts For Thread: Kauto Star - Gold Cup or retirement?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirementThey say he's as good as ever at home, but I thought he showed his age today. It reminded me of a boxer towards the end of their career, they just get old over the course of one fight. They can train as well as ever but when they get in the ring itsThank goodness an element of common sense from Paul Nicholls.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481755953#481755953Thank goodness an element of common sense from Paul Nicholls.Sun, 16 Jan 2011 06:42:40 -0600Well said Roger, greats in all sport decline, football, tennis, boxing etc... As Long as Kauto can still win a Grade 1 race why should he stop?If he hadn't made the mistake at the 2nd last he'd have finished 2nd despite never travelling from the starhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481752373#481752373Well said Roger, greats in all sport decline, football, tennis, boxing etc... As Long as Kauto can still win a Grade 1 race why should he stop?If he hadn't made the mistake at the 2nd last he'd have finished 2nd despite never travelling from the starSun, 16 Jan 2011 05:52:50 -0600Paul sets the record straight following Kauto's King George defeat and targets a return to winning ways in the big one at Cheltenham.I have just tweeted that Kauto Star "did have a small bleed after the race and will go straight for the Gold Cup now"https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481752221#481752221Paul sets the record straight following Kauto's King George defeat and targets a return to winning ways in the big one at Cheltenham.I have just tweeted that Kauto Star "did have a small bleed after the race and will go straight for the Gold Cup now"Sun, 16 Jan 2011 05:50:11 -0600roger spot on imv. If Kauto gets slammed in the Gold Cup then fair enough, he is past it, but he won't be remembered for the way he finishedhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481751841#481751841roger spot on imv. If Kauto gets slammed in the Gold Cup then fair enough, he is past it, but he won't be remembered for the way he finishedSun, 16 Jan 2011 05:43:59 -0600IMO, history means alot to Clive Smith. He realises Kauto Star's position in racing history. He is already one of the most successful NH horses there has ever been, and Cheltenham is the grandest stage of them all. The race would just not be the samehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481751297#481751297IMO, history means alot to Clive Smith. He realises Kauto Star's position in racing history. He is already one of the most successful NH horses there has ever been, and Cheltenham is the grandest stage of them all. The race would just not be the sameSun, 16 Jan 2011 05:36:04 -0600Well said Roger. One defeat, by 2 Kempton specialists, and the hearses are lined up. Ridiculous. He was 4/7 before the race so what happened there? Now everyone is saying he is finished. With Istabraq he was tailed off before they started, there is nhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481744593#481744593Well said Roger. One defeat, by 2 Kempton specialists, and the hearses are lined up. Ridiculous. He was 4/7 before the race so what happened there? Now everyone is saying he is finished. With Istabraq he was tailed off before they started, there is nSun, 16 Jan 2011 03:29:02 -0600I hope they run him and personally I think it's a lot of nonsense to talk about 'going out at the top', like if they didn't retire him that could in anyway diminish the memory of a sporting great.What do you remember about Istabraq? Him pulling up inhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481742777#481742777I hope they run him and personally I think it's a lot of nonsense to talk about 'going out at the top', like if they didn't retire him that could in anyway diminish the memory of a sporting great.What do you remember about Istabraq? Him pulling up inSun, 16 Jan 2011 02:27:52 -0600Hi Resner - I actually think common sense (as I see it anyway!) will prevail and they'll call it a day. Must be a genuinely tough decision for the immediate connections, if he were mine I might end up giving in to temptation. We'll see, but i think thttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481718973#481718973Hi Resner - I actually think common sense (as I see it anyway!) will prevail and they'll call it a day. Must be a genuinely tough decision for the immediate connections, if he were mine I might end up giving in to temptation. We'll see, but i think tSat, 15 Jan 2011 19:04:34 -0600R Carver, while I think we feel the same on this, do you think they will make that decision? I'm afraid I don't, I'm 100% convinced they will run unless Kauto shows a decline at home which he doesn't appear to be doing yethttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481718225#481718225R Carver, while I think we feel the same on this, do you think they will make that decision? I'm afraid I don't, I'm 100% convinced they will run unless Kauto shows a decline at home which he doesn't appear to be doing yetSat, 15 Jan 2011 18:57:03 -0600Imo the longer they sit and wait, the more likely they will be tempted (unlss signs of deterioration are obvious) and I am scared stiff for him so i dont want them to be tempted! Make a snap, hasty decision to retire him Mr Michols and Smithhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26639477/kauto-star---gold-cup-or-retirement?post_id=481717485#481717485Imo the longer they sit and wait, the more likely they will be tempted (unlss signs of deterioration are obvious) and I am scared stiff for him so i dont want them to be tempted! Make a snap, hasty decision to retire him Mr Michols and SmithSat, 15 Jan 2011 18:48:26 -0600