New Posts For Thread: Dont run Menorah in Toat Gold Trophy Hobbsyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsyOk so Menorah may not run before the Festival however if he does Hobbsy please make sure the Champion Hurdle is not sacrificed by carrying a mega weight in the Toat Gold Trophy just a few weeks before the Champion Hurdle.Lesson learned with RoosterToat Gold Trophy says it all really. Looks like you have your wish.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477766385#477766385Toat Gold Trophy says it all really. Looks like you have your wish.Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:48:04 -0600Wrong ... I complained on here re Binocular nicking Zaynar's declared trial for the Festival. He needed a run however Kelso was not the perfect trial for him as I said at the time Sandown was. Zaynar is not a stayer as I said last season which you dihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477758537#477758537Wrong ... I complained on here re Binocular nicking Zaynar's declared trial for the Festival. He needed a run however Kelso was not the perfect trial for him as I said at the time Sandown was. Zaynar is not a stayer as I said last season which you diSun, 12 Dec 2010 09:29:38 -0600Kirk didnt realise that Kelso race would knock Zaynar 9 months back.Menorah 85% to go direct to Championhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477752945#477752945Kirk didnt realise that Kelso race would knock Zaynar 9 months back.Menorah 85% to go direct to ChampionSun, 12 Dec 2010 08:32:57 -0600Not sure what hobbs would think of sending him over to ireland for the AIG. Would fit in nicely i suppose.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477747745#477747745Not sure what hobbs would think of sending him over to ireland for the AIG. Would fit in nicely i suppose.Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:39:31 -0600..may have knocked him back a little.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477739681#477739681..may have knocked him back a little.Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:02:07 -0600Agree 3132 ... Binocular nicked his original declared trial so Zaynar was redirected to a race which didnt exactly hone his speed and may not have knocked him back a little.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477739645#477739645Agree 3132 ... Binocular nicked his original declared trial so Zaynar was redirected to a race which didnt exactly hone his speed and may not have knocked him back a little.Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:01:38 -0600Example of that last year was Henderson running Zaynar in the Morebattle at Kelso for 10k just before Chelt on bottomless ground off 11-10 and getting turned over off Quwetwo at 1/14 on...would have been better going for AW gallop instead.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477739477#477739477Example of that last year was Henderson running Zaynar in the Morebattle at Kelso for 10k just before Chelt on bottomless ground off 11-10 and getting turned over off Quwetwo at 1/14 on...would have been better going for AW gallop instead.Sun, 12 Dec 2010 05:59:33 -0600Like the idea of a pipe opener in around 6 weeks time but nothing more strenuous than that to knock the edge off him.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477739461#477739461Like the idea of a pipe opener in around 6 weeks time but nothing more strenuous than that to knock the edge off him.Sun, 12 Dec 2010 05:59:27 -0600no way not haydock the ground there is always dreadful the kingwell maybe but whats the point keep him fresh and go straight there.there is no need to run him in one of those 5runner heavy ground messy races just before the champio hes proved hes a whttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477738769#477738769no way not haydock the ground there is always dreadful the kingwell maybe but whats the point keep him fresh and go straight there.there is no need to run him in one of those 5runner heavy ground messy races just before the champio hes proved hes a wSun, 12 Dec 2010 05:47:55 -0600Needs to be a level weights trial no point bottoming the horse a few weeks before the biggest race in the horses life by making him him hog a heavy weight in the most competitive handicap hurdle of the year.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26436173/dont-run-menorah-in-toat-gold-trophy-hobbsy?post_id=477732705#477732705Needs to be a level weights trial no point bottoming the horse a few weeks before the biggest race in the horses life by making him him hog a heavy weight in the most competitive handicap hurdle of the year.Sun, 12 Dec 2010 04:08:47 -0600