New Posts For Thread: Long Runhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-runWhich race?For me Long Run has serious chance at Cheltenham has improved clearly is top class and can dominate things for awhile.Will be a backer and will go nrnb, Horses than win King George that also run in Gold Cup any records out there for me ?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481882377#481882377For me Long Run has serious chance at Cheltenham has improved clearly is top class and can dominate things for awhile.Will be a backer and will go nrnb, Horses than win King George that also run in Gold Cup any records out there for me ?Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:49:32 -0600Personally I only use Official Ratings as a yardstick against which to base my own unofficial ratings to see how well handicapped a horse is.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481875993#481875993Personally I only use Official Ratings as a yardstick against which to base my own unofficial ratings to see how well handicapped a horse is.Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:44:31 -0600Not the placing of ratings just the actual useing of them as betting toolI personally just think that in the last 5 years they have went way overboard and its getting a bit out of control.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481874145#481874145Not the placing of ratings just the actual useing of them as betting toolI personally just think that in the last 5 years they have went way overboard and its getting a bit out of control.Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:24:18 -0600I think it depends what you use ratings for exactly, and they do inform my punting, even in conditions races. Arguing about them also makes for great fun!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481873693#481873693I think it depends what you use ratings for exactly, and they do inform my punting, even in conditions races. Arguing about them also makes for great fun!Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:19:37 -0600I know what you are saying, but does this mean you would not place a rating against Kauto or Binocular?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481873433#481873433I know what you are saying, but does this mean you would not place a rating against Kauto or Binocular?Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:16:56 -0600The thing for me is ratings are only relevent if the horse has won a competative handicap of that mark and from memory none of the ones you mention have.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481872849#481872849The thing for me is ratings are only relevent if the horse has won a competative handicap of that mark and from memory none of the ones you mention have.Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:10:22 -0600I posted elsewhere -He's 6 and he's beaten a horse rated 160 by 12 lengths without being fully extended. Rivseride gave 7lbs and a 10L beating to Golan Way the time before - Golan Way is rated 146 and after receiving that beating he came out and gavehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481872453#481872453I posted elsewhere -He's 6 and he's beaten a horse rated 160 by 12 lengths without being fully extended. Rivseride gave 7lbs and a 10L beating to Golan Way the time before - Golan Way is rated 146 and after receiving that beating he came out and gaveMon, 17 Jan 2011 07:06:00 -0600Agree with posts regarding doubts on undulating track like cheltenham.I have been disappointed with both his runs there. His wins at autueil confirm he's ok left handed - but while the undulations are not what they are at celtenham the key may simplyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481863081#481863081Agree with posts regarding doubts on undulating track like cheltenham.I have been disappointed with both his runs there. His wins at autueil confirm he's ok left handed - but while the undulations are not what they are at celtenham the key may simplyMon, 17 Jan 2011 05:02:00 -0600Not sure about Nicky as hes not really had the amunition whilst Ive been watching racing. Regarding long run I see no reason that he wont stay the extra distance but his jock will need to get him to settle better in the race this year.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481860265#481860265Not sure about Nicky as hes not really had the amunition whilst Ive been watching racing. Regarding long run I see no reason that he wont stay the extra distance but his jock will need to get him to settle better in the race this year.Mon, 17 Jan 2011 04:10:11 -0600To me he just looks like a Kempton lover,and a Cheltenham hater,trying to simplify things.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/25827269/long-run?post_id=481855589#481855589To me he just looks like a Kempton lover,and a Cheltenham hater,trying to simplify things.Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:52:35 -0600