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Des Pond
14 Oct 17 23:07
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Now set for January, after Groves beat Cox with a hard body shot in the 4th, after a spirited start from Cox. I wonder how the bookies will price it up.

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By:
Des Pond
When: 14 Oct 17 23:25
Paddys have it

4/6 Eubank Jnr
6/5 Groves
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Oct 17 00:43
Wow , i don't necessarily think that's wrong but i expected Groves to be fav

January a stupid month for such a big fight . This series is not well planned imo
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Oct 17 00:43
And i still say that Senior will find some way to squirm out of this fight
By:
wisewords
When: 15 Oct 17 03:10
why would he squirm out? the winner of the series gets hefty money.
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Oct 17 03:32
Fighting GGG would have been hefty money
By:
wisewords
When: 15 Oct 17 03:49
He would have lost to GGG
By:
wisewords
When: 15 Oct 17 03:49
The Eubanks are annoying but they know what they're doing. They used Eddie Hearn wit that GGG thing for publicity.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 18 Oct 17 11:09
Groves win this.
That body shot is devastating.
By:
n88uk
When: 20 Oct 17 02:35

Oct 14, 2017 -- 9:49PM, wisewords wrote:


The Eubanks are annoying but they know what they're doing. They used Eddie Hearn wit that GGG thing for publicity.


The publicity just made them look complete morons though. And unless they win the series there in an even worse position really than they were before.

Anyway Groves for me at the prices. Bigger at the weight, by far the best opposition Eubank has ever fought. Eubank has just been fighting slow plodders so far at this weight that are easy to hit, but Groves will make things tough for him, should dominate the jab exchanges and carries more power. I guess worry will be as ever with Groves is will he gas badly as Eubank has a good engine.

By:
n88uk
When: 20 Oct 17 02:40

Oct 14, 2017 -- 6:43PM, tobermory wrote:


Wow , i don't necessarily think that's wrong but i expected Groves to be favJanuary a stupid month for such a big fight . This series is not well planned imo


The real thing seems the turnarounds seem unreal fast. Not so much the QF's as most of those were set up to be very easy fights for the fav, but the winner of the SF's has to go again in May. Given some of these will surely be absolute wars surely someone will be too battered and beaten up for that.

The format is definitely better than the super 6, but it does seem optimistic to think there is going to be 0 hitches, 0 injuries when running to such a tight schedule. Could have done with getting another world title in the super middle version too. Braehmer vs Brant is pretty poor really.

By:
Callisto-moon
When: 20 Oct 17 11:49
Very surprised Eubanks is fave to win the tourn.
I'm not clued up on Callum shep but groves will surely be much too strong.
By:
tobermory
When: 29 Nov 17 16:30
20,000 tickets sold out in 7 minutes

damn , they could have sold a lot more in a summer fight outdoors
By:
11kv
When: 02 Dec 17 14:55
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By:
Sports Fan
When: 01 Feb 18 11:20
Well....getting closer now and looks like it is happening! What is the consensus gentlemen?  Do we all believe Eubank is the real deal?  I think we have all seen the twitter/youtube videos of Eubanks amazing speed and fitness...is that enough?  He looked to have power against Yildirim but I don't think any of us would have called him a big hitter before this fight.  I think this is a big step up in class for him and Groves, although had a couple of wobbly years after the Froch fight, seems to be back on track.  Definitely the bigger man and will test Eubank like he hasn't been done before.
By:
Topboys
When: 02 Feb 18 02:12
I can see it being a cagey fight. Both in the position were they can't afford to lose. Fancy Groves via points
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 02 Feb 18 18:44
I reckon groves gonna win by KO, can see eubank engaging at some stage in the fight to try and prove a point that he can bang/take punches and he will get tagged, if he keeps the fight on the outside then he coasts to a points win
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Feb 18 23:18
I think Junior has a solid chin
By:
Topboys
When: 07 Feb 18 00:21
Just looked at the odds. Bet365 have Groves @2.6 which I think is massive
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 07 Feb 18 09:25
think groves is a bit underrated.
By:
tobermory
When: 13 Feb 18 01:59
World champion George Groves has offered a withering assessment of opponent Chris Eubank and his father ahead of their super-middleweight world title fight in Manchester this weekend, warning that his rival is in for "a huge fall from grace" while claiming that Eubank Snr "has lost the plot".

"The reality is that they don't know what they are doing," said Groves, 29, who defends the World Boxing Association super-middleweight crown in the semi-final of the World Boxing Super Series for The Muhammad Ali Trophy.

"Fine, Junior catches a certain section of the public with these Rocky-style training montage videos he's putting out there, but Senior has lost the plot completely, lost his grip on reality when he describes what his son is capable of," added Groves of Eubank, who has stepped up a division to 12st from middleweight, having been installed as the favourite by the bookmakers.

Groves, a 29-year-old Londoner and a year older than the challenger, continued: "There is lots with the Eubanks that I don't understand. His dad has lost the plot, which he has done several times over the years. People have just bought into what they put out there, that he's the coming force, with the training montages they put out on the internet - with his 98 punches in 11 seconds - and that will capture a certain section of the public's imagination.

"But they have shown terrible sparring, stuff that I would never release, and they have got Junior to a position where he believes all his dreams will come true. He's out there looking at grand houses likes 'Homes Under The Hammer'.

"You have to win some fights first to do that. This can be a huge fall from grace. It is a tough road back when you lose. I walked a tightrope with the two Carl Froch fights I had, and the more you put out there, the more you risk."

Groves won a world title at the fourth attempt in May last year, stopping Russian Fedor Chudinov in the sixth round to claim the 12st crown.

"I'm in a good place now. I've achieved my dream and I just want to capitalise," explained Groves. "This will be a huge fall from grace for Eubank. It won't be an easy fight, he has certain attributes, but Eubank thinks he can do this without a trainer. The father is supposed to be the clever man, pushing him, but it's the blind leading the blind. He had success in the past, but it was a different time, a different era. The best boxers have great teams around them, and a good trainer is worth their weight in gold."

Groves also opened up on a series of sparring sessions they had, until 2014. "It was years ago. I'm not taking much from it. I was drilling certain things during sparring under my then trainer, Adam Booth. He (Eubank) is mentally tough. He's ambitious. He can get bashed up and come back the next day ready to go again. But has he developed his skills? I'm not so sure.

"Eubank has been drilling bad habits, and those bad habits look permanently engrained. I don't think he's improved since we sparred.

"I'm a power athlete, I like to hit people hard. He thinks it's his time, his destiny, but that's not how it works. It's about who has prepared correctly, and who does the right thing on the night. He hasn't boxed anyone as big, fast and strong as me."
By:
tobermory
When: 13 Feb 18 21:49
ITV are pisspoor at marketing.

Hear so little about it I keep checking it hasn't been postponed.

Casual  fans must have no idea it is on.
By:
tobermory
When: 13 Feb 18 22:48
Sky generated more interest in that fight  between those burger flippers a couple of weeks back than ITV have  in this
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 14 Feb 18 00:09
agree tober
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 14 Feb 18 00:10
I was searching online for the day and time of the final presser, couldnt even find it
By:
wisewords
When: 14 Feb 18 03:17
it's on Wednesday.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 14 Feb 18 11:59
young chris is a bit of an a hole.
like father like son.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 14 Feb 18 16:02
final presser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htVDCgUDG9U
By:
tobermory
When: 14 Feb 18 17:32
" He knows how to lose . He knows how to get knocked out . His chin has an off button , mine does not "
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 15 Feb 18 12:16
junior drinking straight out of bottle ffs, thought it was to share.
By:
n88uk
When: 16 Feb 18 13:46

Feb 13, 2018 -- 4:48PM, tobermory wrote:


Sky generated more interest in that fight

By:
n88uk
When: 16 Feb 18 13:49
^It might appear that way just from advertising, but don't think it's actually true in terms of interest. All my friends are aware of this fight and talking about it, no-one was talking about Okolie vs Chamberlain. My mum was also aware of it when I spoke to her last weekend as Eubank Jr has been on breakfast TV, you can't underestimate the influence of that, it's a different audience to the watching Sky Sports News on loop types but it's a big catchment too.

You'd expect this to be a big fight anyway, it's the biggest fight since Joshua vs Klitschko in the UK.
By:
tictacman1
When: 16 Feb 18 18:25
Chris Eubank Jr was slightly heavier than George Groves on the scales as the British rivals successfully weighed in for their World Boxing Super Series semi-final.



The Brighton man stepped up a division to enter the eight-man tournament and tipped the scales at 11st 13lbs 10oz, surprisingly a little more than the natural super-middleweight Groves, who weighed in at 11st 13lbs 2oz.
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Feb 18 18:40
Groves will be at least half a stone heavier tomorrow.
By:
trilby22
When: 16 Feb 18 19:43
Is this on council telly tomorrow?
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Feb 18 19:45
No, it's ITV Pay per view, trilby. The Joe Joyce fight is on tonight on Dave, though.
By:
trilby22
When: 16 Feb 18 19:49
Thanks Des.  Radio 5 live again it is then.
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Feb 18 19:51
same here. Sad Although I am tempted by this one.
By:
trilby22
When: 16 Feb 18 19:52
I do like their commentary though.
By:
tictacman1
When: 17 Feb 18 01:25
The WBSS is pioneering in a number of ways, and one of which is their solution to dealing with the potential draw. In all the fights in the tournament, a fourth judge has been drafted in to keep score alongside the standard three scoring judges.

If the original three judges score the fight a draw, then the fourth judge will be taken into account to decide the winner. If two of the four scorecards are in favour of Boxer X, and at least of the others is a draw, then Boxer X will be declared the winner.

In other words, the boxer with more winning scorecards after all four are taken into consideration will be the winner.


If the fight is still scored a draw (i.e. the fourth judge has it level) then they will use the countback system, which is something much more synonymous with amateur boxing.

In this case, the original three scorecards are looked at for the 12th round, and if one boxer won that round on a majority of them, then he is the winner
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