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Only-the-Brave
21 Jun 13 15:20
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According to Rafael, been drawn up for 17th August.  Big big fight to take on, which woulld usually mean avoid by Warren's usual way of promoting.  Kovalev looks the real deal to me, be interesting to see how bookies price this up.
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Report alabaster crashes down August 16, 2013 10:50 AM BST
Yep I've played kov 1-7 and clev ko. Pretty sure kov has too much for clev but equally confident he has a dodgy gas tank.

Also had a good go at barker ko and both fights inside doubles.
Report Jimmy Diamond August 17, 2013 5:55 PM BST
There's elements of Clev that i dont like either but i think he's been underestimated a little by some. We cant know what Kovalev's stamina is like and as brave as Cleverley is.....he surelly isnt going to stand and trade.
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 6:17 PM BST
the sticking point for me with clev is the bellew fight... i dont rate bellew one bit at all and he made hard work of beating him.. also he loves too get involved and stick his chin out, that would be a big no no here
Report Horangi. August 17, 2013 6:26 PM BST
Like Cleverly at slightly above evens and the stoppage at almost 8-1 is appealing.  Kovalev is an unknown in terms of chin and stamina and I'm not sure this is the opponent and venue you want to be tested in.  The power of Kovalev has taken the headlines but I think the workrate of Cleverly in his hometown should start him as a small fav.

Anybody else like Enzo over Mckenzie?  Honestly felt like Enzo was coping well with McKenzie the first time out and starting to get the better of him.  Second time around should feel even more comfortable and confident.  Enzo is technically superior, hits as hard if not harder and is fighting at home, 2-1+ seems like very good value to me.
Report Jimmy Diamond August 17, 2013 7:26 PM BST
Have toyed with Enzo myself Horangi.

The drop down to LH hasnt suited him though and the guy is a knockout waiting to happen. Agree he wasnt doing too badly in the first fight and Mackenzie is poor compared to what Enzo was fighting in his pomp. Its value for sure but the blueprint on maccarinelli is out. I have a hunch for Enzo here though so am considering a small play.
Report Geesyerdosh August 17, 2013 7:42 PM BST
I've followed with the Kov 1-6, Cleverley stoppage. Kovalev will know going to the champ's backyard he'll more than likely need the ko and wouldn't be shocked to see him blow himself out.

My main bet is on Barker. 8/1 the stoppage looks massive. Looked much bigger at the weigh-in and Geale looked nervous. If he can truly believe he can win I think he will. Done the doubles as well.
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 8:08 PM BST
Anybody fancy laying Evs this fight not to go the distance? I've got 80 quid waiting to be matched
Report Them Bones August 17, 2013 8:10 PM BST
Hell of a card. Can't wait for the main event!

I've got..
Kovalev to win.
Buckland to win.
And Enzo Vs Ovill to go under 9,5 rounds.

WAR Kovalev!!!
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 8:45 PM BST
im on kovalev, smith and enzo
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 8:47 PM BST
Really don't rate Oyvil if Enzo has anything left then 2/1 is a huge price
Report neill d August 17, 2013 8:51 PM BST
any streams lads?
Report neill d August 17, 2013 8:51 PM BST
thanks
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 8:54 PM BST
http://atdhe.xxx/boxing/watch-boxnation-boxing-mckenzie-vs-maccarinelli-clev...
Report neill d August 17, 2013 9:00 PM BST
top man mokoloko, cheers
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:02 PM BST
Doing ok is Enzo all Ovill has is a swinging right he's really crude though
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:06 PM BST
Very quiet on here tonight. Got Enzo 3-1 up here though
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:18 PM BST
Enzo looks to have gassed after 6
Report kingrattler August 17, 2013 9:19 PM BST
He wants to forget it talking about Cleverley his workrate is limited and hes far to easy to hit.
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:22 PM BST
No chance of beating Clev might still do this though
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:34 PM BST
great stoppage go on Enzo
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 9:35 PM BST
good man enzo
always exciting
Report Horangi. August 17, 2013 9:37 PM BST
Good fight, regret backing off some of my Enzo bet midway through.
Report swanseaspoon1 August 17, 2013 9:37 PM BST
anyone have a decent stream please?
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:38 PM BST
Thanks for whoever laid £1.26 of my fight not to go distance in Clev fight only got £78.74 to go
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 9:40 PM BST
swanseaspoon links above
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:41 PM BST
Lockett speaking well here. Knows Enzo ain't the same fighter so is trying to get him to evolve
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 9:43 PM BST
Any thoughts on the Buckland fight?
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 9:48 PM BST
lost a packet there but if i had to lose glad it was to enzo! fight turned when he survived the 7th if that had happened two to 3 rounds earlier then think ovil wud of got him just totally gassed n cudnt get him out when he was hurt
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 9:56 PM BST
im on smith, looks a live underdog
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 10:08 PM BST
cracking punch. looks a smart fighter smith, excellent footwork. first time ive seen him. enjoyed that. roll on kovalev 3rd ko
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:09 PM BST
Absolute peach of an uppercut thankfully Buckland is up
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 10:13 PM BST
well thats how to do 550 in2 fights all weekends profits gone feel sick
Report thefarmer August 17, 2013 10:14 PM BST
Cleverly at around evens looks a steal to me. There is no doubt that Kovalev can bang but this is a big step up in class for him and i have a feeling that Cleverly will keep out of danger early before either forcing a mid to late stoppage or a comfortable points win.
Report Gus-Gorman August 17, 2013 10:14 PM BST
any streams guys please?
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:16 PM BST
I really don't rate Cleverly at all but how good is his opponent?. He will either get banged out by this guy or Kovalev will punch himself out and Clev will stop him late
Report Them Bones August 17, 2013 10:16 PM BST
Omfg, what a crappy weekend's betting.
0 for 4 so far.
Kovalev could change that in a big way. Went in big on him. Having said that, if he doesn't, it will be the worst day of betting in my life.

Btw, hell of a KO!
Report Ouspenski August 17, 2013 10:17 PM BST
Do you have to download VCL Media player for that link?
Report Them Bones August 17, 2013 10:17 PM BST
http://www.viponlinesports.eu/boxing/169857/1/nathan-cleverly-vs-sergey-kova...
Report Horangi. August 17, 2013 10:23 PM BST
If Kovalev can't knock out Cleverly (and Cleverly supposedly has an iron chin) then I just don't see how he wins.
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:25 PM BST
Can't see how he outboxes him to be honest? Could this guy be another Golovkin who just flattens a brit?
Report Zazu August 17, 2013 10:28 PM BST
look at the lungs on that Cool
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:28 PM BST
Clev looks a bit nervous here?
Report M13 August 17, 2013 10:36 PM BST
Thanks to the fella , who provided the link.
Report n88uk August 17, 2013 10:39 PM BST
Why the f**k is Cleverly still favourite here?
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 10:40 PM BST
20-18 kovalev
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:40 PM BST
Looks a gulf in class thus far Kovalev looks ultra confident while Clev aint getting his punches off
Report n88uk August 17, 2013 10:41 PM BST
How corrupt are the judges likely to be?
Report n88uk August 17, 2013 10:43 PM BST
I guess it's a question of whether Kovalev can keep this work rate up?
Report casemoney August 17, 2013 10:44 PM BST
battered
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:44 PM BST
How was that not stopped there?
Report Zazu August 17, 2013 10:44 PM BST
had rounds 1-3 Cry
Report n88uk August 17, 2013 10:44 PM BST
Surely over next round.
Report casemoney August 17, 2013 10:44 PM BST
should be stopped
Report Geesyerdosh August 17, 2013 10:45 PM BST
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Report Gus-Gorman August 17, 2013 10:47 PM BST
whats happening?
Report youuo August 17, 2013 10:47 PM BST
Easy easy money. Cleverly never looked like threatening there.
Report youuo August 17, 2013 10:48 PM BST
Round 3 KO backers got robbed
Report mokoloko August 17, 2013 10:48 PM BST
great stuff, savage fighter
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:49 PM BST
Can't believe Kovalev was still Evs after 2 rounds
Report in hell August 17, 2013 10:49 PM BST
Cleverly outclassed .

Terry O'Connor cheated a bit in the 3rd round

Cleverly has been hidden away by Warren and has been found out tonight
Report Geesyerdosh August 17, 2013 10:51 PM BST
Can't believe Warren king of the record protectors put Cleverley in with him. Was he a mandatory?
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 10:52 PM BST
FCUKIG HELL!!! Everything gone wrong tonight on rounds 1-3 big time! How did the ref let him out of that round! Sick only saviour had the double 4-6 going on to barket stoppage...
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:53 PM BST
Clev was only alongside Burns in being a very protected fighter with a world strap
Report casemoney August 17, 2013 10:53 PM BST
dont rule out a rematch Laugh wtf do they want him stretchered out ?
Report Zazu August 17, 2013 10:54 PM BST
replay of round3 is painful - just as shocking 2nd time round it doesnt get stopped!!
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 10:54 PM BST
i kno :(
Report casemoney August 17, 2013 10:55 PM BST
mean looking **** Plain
Report happyhibee August 17, 2013 10:56 PM BST
Yeah he's a scary looking fella
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 10:57 PM BST
no wonder b hop didnt wanna get in with him
Report alabaster crashes down August 17, 2013 11:17 PM BST
could be a big night for a few of us on here if Barker can get the stoppage...c'mon the dazzler
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 11:22 PM BST
yea i only had a tenner double 6s going on to 8s but that will cover my earlier loses
Report RBoyd86 August 17, 2013 11:22 PM BST
Kovalev caught Cleverly hard, putting him down twice, and really the fight should have ended there.

Instead, referee Terry O'Connor basically made himself a hazard with his arms waving all over, far too close to the action if he wasn't going to stop the fight, as Kovalev tried to finish it off during the end of round three. O'Connor then basically carried a clearly beaten and damaged Cleverly back to the corner after the bell, where Cleverly was plopped down into his stool and sent back out for the inevitable finish.

Fcuking o conner english refs are **** and im english
Report Geesyerdosh August 18, 2013 3:45 AM BST
Superb from Kiko Martinez. Few months ago he's finished now he's world champion Laugh
Report book August 18, 2013 4:28 AM BST
barker-geale will be a draw
Report n88uk August 18, 2013 4:52 AM BST
On twitter, most people have Barker up going into the last round. Yet Geale is still favourite...
Report n88uk August 18, 2013 4:55 AM BST
And now after losing the final round clearly Barker is favourite Laugh.
Report book August 18, 2013 4:57 AM BST
ffs,114-113 twice
Report Geesyerdosh August 18, 2013 4:57 AM BST
Barkers the champ GrinGrinGrinGrin

lost my dough but fuuck it
Report n88uk August 18, 2013 4:59 AM BST
Absolutely mad market. Barker was still trading @ 3 in round 11.
Report book August 18, 2013 5:01 AM BST
laid £200 at 1.04 on geale,but was large green on the draw
Report Geesyerdosh August 18, 2013 5:02 AM BST
You were unlucky book, I was sure that last scorecard was gonna be 114-114
Report n88uk August 18, 2013 5:02 AM BST
Market didn't seem to cotton on that Barker should have been leading on the cards until the 12th, don't know what it was playing at tbh.
Report PHILthePOWER August 18, 2013 5:07 AM BST
How refreshing was Barkers interview? Complimenting his opponent & admitting it could have gone either way, not giving it the big one and calling out all sorts of opponents.

Well done Darren, it is so much easier to warm to boxers like him, instead of the fury/haye/froch talking crap rubbish.
Report book August 18, 2013 5:09 AM BST
and me gees
Report pulio August 18, 2013 6:09 AM BST
i was looking at a HUGE payout if barker stopped geale Cry
Report alabaster crashes down August 18, 2013 11:41 AM BST
you and me both pulio Laugh Cry To be fair it never really looked likely did it.

also had a £50 outright acca Barker, Martinez, Smith, Kovalev, Campillo.
Report happyhibee August 18, 2013 12:55 PM BST
Thought Barker just about edged it and was really chuffed for him as he seems a really decent fella
Report alabaster crashes down August 18, 2013 4:07 PM BST
Agree hibee. However I was surprised how difficult it was for him, expected it to be much more straightforward. Also got the feeling it took a once in a lifetime superhuman effort for him to win. Probably have to take him on next time out.
Report happyhibee August 18, 2013 7:08 PM BST
Wouldn't surprise me if he jacks it mate. Go out at the top and enjoy the rest of your life. also maybe the rumours about his injured back might have had something to do with it? Showed serious guts to get up off the floor though I thought that body shot had ended it
Report a bitofinterest August 18, 2013 8:36 PM BST
well done barker,one of the good guys Cool
Report Jimmy Diamond August 18, 2013 11:02 PM BST
Well done Barker backers

Last night was the only time watching boxing that i have had a tear in my eye. Absolutelly brilliant to see him win that world title after all he's been through. I honestly thought he was done after getting put down from that body shot - proper rocky stuff that he got up and recovered........i think ref Cotton was on the verge of stepping in until Barker threw a couple of punches to show he was still competing.

Would be foolish to retire now, make an easy first defence and then a couple of fights against World level opponents or one of the British fighters. He can make a nice retirement fund for himself. Id fancy him to beat Andy Lee and Matt Macklin although think he'd struggle with Murray. I think he could even beat Sturm.
Report alabaster crashes down August 19, 2013 10:33 AM BST
agree with pretty much everything there jimmy. I think they'll go for Macklin or Sturm on the Froch Groves card to justify a PPV. It's a fight Barker can win but he'll need to mix it up a bit more. Ironic that after years of people calling him for him to be more aggressive he actually seems to have gone a bit too far...think he could have beat Geale a bit more easily if he'd used his boxing a bit more, he was loading up on almost every shot and the jab got neglected.
Report alabaster crashes down August 19, 2013 10:50 AM BST
forgot Macklin is supposed to be fighting Rosado on hbo isnt he so most likely be sturm as his mandatory if they can raise the cash to get him over.
Report Geesyerdosh August 19, 2013 11:04 AM BST
Don't think there's a hope in hell he'll quit, this is the chance to make life changing money. Deservedly so after getting up from that body shot and his past.

As for opponents I'd be surprised if Andy Lee isn't top of the list. Would pass as a genuine challenger even though I'd say he's close to useless.
Report alabaster crashes down August 19, 2013 11:20 AM BST
I don't rate Lee either but he's fighting Spada on the Haye Fury undercard I think.

Sounds like Cleverly is seriously considering retirement.
Report happyhibee August 19, 2013 7:20 PM BST
I actually had a tear in my eye too when he spoke afterwards genuinely heartwarming.

I don't think he would quit given there's money to be made but I just think he might consider it. Think he beats Sturm if the fight's in the UK and would beat macklin too who is grossly overrated. Would avoid Murray at all costs though I think he is the best of the 3 UK boys
Report larrence August 19, 2013 7:35 PM BST
darren barker is without doubt one of the good guys, all the best to him.Cool
Report sj August 21, 2013 6:45 PM BST
AH Krusher LoveLoveLoveLoveLoveLoveLove
Report Musik August 23, 2013 7:34 PM BST
Wonder if Cleverly will call it quits
Report Jimmy Diamond August 23, 2013 8:52 PM BST
Can Cleverley come again is the question......i think he probably can as there's not a lot in the LH division. Cloud is beatable, Hopkins cant go on much longer, Dawson has big question marks and Pascal and Stevenson are dangerous but beatable.

I think Nathan has to get away from his dad as a trainer though because he's gone as far as he can with him.
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