New Posts For Thread: Have Darley and Coolmore made the Industry unsustainable and what happens when it's over?https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-overI'm aware there is/was a fair few 'older heads' who used to frequent this forum and would remember the old owner/breeder days and i'm curious to know yours and anyone else's thoughts as to whether the introduction of namely Coolmore and Darley amongsBack to the original question. I think they are very different entities. John Magnier has made a lot of money out of his racing/breeding operation, Sheikh Mohammed is showing a massive net loss (easily over a billion, but hard to estimate as what ishttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558814633#558814633Back to the original question. I think they are very different entities. John Magnier has made a lot of money out of his racing/breeding operation, Sheikh Mohammed is showing a massive net loss (easily over a billion, but hard to estimate as what isSun, 09 Feb 2020 16:52:20 -0600Back to the original question. I think they are very different entities. John Magnier has made a lot of money out of his racing/breeding operation, Sheikh Mohammed is showing a massive net loss (easily over a billion, but hard to estimate as what ishttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558814631#558814631Back to the original question. I think they are very different entities. John Magnier has made a lot of money out of his racing/breeding operation, Sheikh Mohammed is showing a massive net loss (easily over a billion, but hard to estimate as what isSun, 09 Feb 2020 16:52:19 -0600No we're not.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558763411#558763411No we're not.Sat, 01 Feb 2020 11:54:26 -0600Its not my job or your job to tell anyone if their mares or stallions are poor. If we were that clever we would be buying all the best yearlings and making fortunes. We are not.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558760489#558760489Its not my job or your job to tell anyone if their mares or stallions are poor. If we were that clever we would be buying all the best yearlings and making fortunes. We are not.Sat, 01 Feb 2020 04:32:12 -0600Fair point-well made. But poor production comes from breeding poor stallions to poor mares?https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558758505#558758505Fair point-well made. But poor production comes from breeding poor stallions to poor mares?Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:26:16 -0600Over production is a term used by breeders when they don't get the returns they think they are entitled to for their stock. In reality it is poor production not over production. I haven't missed a yearling sale at Newmarket for the last 5 years and Nhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558757207#558757207Over production is a term used by breeders when they don't get the returns they think they are entitled to for their stock. In reality it is poor production not over production. I haven't missed a yearling sale at Newmarket for the last 5 years and NFri, 31 Jan 2020 15:16:02 -0600I wasn't talking about Breeders breeding for their own pleasure. For the record, I'm working class too. No silver spoon here. My post wasn't designed to bash anyone-it was an attempt to propose a solution for overproduction.MPR syndicates are betweehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558756835#558756835I wasn't talking about Breeders breeding for their own pleasure. For the record, I'm working class too. No silver spoon here. My post wasn't designed to bash anyone-it was an attempt to propose a solution for overproduction.MPR syndicates are betweeFri, 31 Jan 2020 14:40:38 -0600There have been lots of bang average racehorses that have gone to stud and made good stallions. 'Have a go breeders' sounds like 'breeders that don't fit my particular prejudices' Not sure what the old style owner breeder was but there are plenty ofhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558756425#558756425There have been lots of bang average racehorses that have gone to stud and made good stallions. 'Have a go breeders' sounds like 'breeders that don't fit my particular prejudices' Not sure what the old style owner breeder was but there are plenty ofFri, 31 Jan 2020 14:05:35 -0600Interesting BBC. The only 2 syndicates I had a share in were limited to 12 shares and were run on a small scale. Both horses won decent races. Lucky Bay and So Now.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558755911#558755911Interesting BBC. The only 2 syndicates I had a share in were limited to 12 shares and were run on a small scale. Both horses won decent races. Lucky Bay and So Now.Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:26:05 -0600Too many bang average horses going to stud, means that there are lots of very cheap stallions about, which encourage people to 'have a go' at breeding a horse. Maybe if you set a 'number'(rating) that a colt has to get to before it gets to stud, thenhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/31612311/have-darley-and-coolmore-made-the-industry-unsustainable-and-what-happens-when-its-over?post_id=558749405#558749405Too many bang average horses going to stud, means that there are lots of very cheap stallions about, which encourage people to 'have a go' at breeding a horse. Maybe if you set a 'number'(rating) that a colt has to get to before it gets to stud, thenThu, 30 Jan 2020 14:07:34 -0600