New Posts For Thread: Whitsbury 2017https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017Pleased to announce stallion fees for 2017 SHOWCASING £35,000ADAAY £7,000 (pictured)DUE DILIGENCE £5,500SWISS SPIRIT £4,000Yer Ma, fully agree and neatly put. Not getting Foxwedge back is a mistake, I think, as not only did he achieve enough himself to return, but his sire has finally justified the support of Coolmore the last two years and would have helped him along. Shttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550293817#550293817Yer Ma, fully agree and neatly put. Not getting Foxwedge back is a mistake, I think, as not only did he achieve enough himself to return, but his sire has finally justified the support of Coolmore the last two years and would have helped him along. SSat, 29 Oct 2016 16:34:31 -0500Im sure you'll make your Showcasing work PotM. I like him but he's too much. I'd take anything north of even money this will be the most he'll ever stand for. Illuminating that Shadwell seemed so keen on Swiss Spirit yearlings, what with Adaay apphttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550293583#550293583Im sure you'll make your Showcasing work PotM. I like him but he's too much. I'd take anything north of even money this will be the most he'll ever stand for. Illuminating that Shadwell seemed so keen on Swiss Spirit yearlings, what with Adaay appSat, 29 Oct 2016 15:58:29 -0500If you are talking restricted/managed book sizes then I think Cheveley have nailed it. Kyllachy for some years has given breeders the chance of making a profit perhaps more than any other stallion at a middle market fee. Sadly I cant quite reach it ahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550292493#550292493If you are talking restricted/managed book sizes then I think Cheveley have nailed it. Kyllachy for some years has given breeders the chance of making a profit perhaps more than any other stallion at a middle market fee. Sadly I cant quite reach it aSat, 29 Oct 2016 14:15:58 -0500Apparently you have to sell a lot of nominations to pay the lease on a stallion like Foxwedge so no he isn't coming back.Sepoy has done well in my opinion of the shuttlers. Plenty of 90 plussers plenty of unexposed and stakes horses too. With good bahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550292385#550292385Apparently you have to sell a lot of nominations to pay the lease on a stallion like Foxwedge so no he isn't coming back.Sepoy has done well in my opinion of the shuttlers. Plenty of 90 plussers plenty of unexposed and stakes horses too. With good baSat, 29 Oct 2016 14:07:41 -0500For me, Showcasing hasn't proven himself a consistent enough sire at this level, but clearly there is sufficient demand for him to justify increasing the fee. Good luck to all involved with him. To answer your point above, Wily, about this year's firhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550291909#550291909For me, Showcasing hasn't proven himself a consistent enough sire at this level, but clearly there is sufficient demand for him to justify increasing the fee. Good luck to all involved with him. To answer your point above, Wily, about this year's firSat, 29 Oct 2016 13:26:51 -0500Agree completely. Particularly relevant your point on restricted book sizes. I think more people are working this out, but surprised it's taken so long. Part of the reason the "ok" Irish stallions sink so quickly is because everyone has had one or twhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550291071#550291071Agree completely. Particularly relevant your point on restricted book sizes. I think more people are working this out, but surprised it's taken so long. Part of the reason the "ok" Irish stallions sink so quickly is because everyone has had one or twSat, 29 Oct 2016 11:53:49 -0500Showcasing I presume?I have quite a lot of memories of good stallions struggling through their dross mare years commercially. Danehill Dancer's fee went ever skywards whilst the lesser crops didn't sell to reflect this.I must say my eyebrows were raihttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550289003#550289003Showcasing I presume?I have quite a lot of memories of good stallions struggling through their dross mare years commercially. Danehill Dancer's fee went ever skywards whilst the lesser crops didn't sell to reflect this.I must say my eyebrows were raiSat, 29 Oct 2016 08:44:28 -0500I see what you're saying but what else in that price bracket is there? Dutch Art is off the boil and if you want anything else proven you're looking at 50k +I don't have this problem, but i imagine if you have a 100k mare it's difficult to find a prohttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550288649#550288649I see what you're saying but what else in that price bracket is there? Dutch Art is off the boil and if you want anything else proven you're looking at 50k +I don't have this problem, but i imagine if you have a 100k mare it's difficult to find a proSat, 29 Oct 2016 08:16:42 -050030K Median, 43k Avergage. 7 out of 46 yearlings offered in 2016 sold for more than £50k. Not in the top 25 of sires by wins / winners, 2yo winners or prizemoney. I must be missing something.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550287617#55028761730K Median, 43k Avergage. 7 out of 46 yearlings offered in 2016 sold for more than £50k. Not in the top 25 of sires by wins / winners, 2yo winners or prizemoney. I must be missing something.Sat, 29 Oct 2016 06:22:38 -0500About what I expected.might be tempted to take a gamble on Swiss S on a mare that could do with a bit of luck. (I have a few!)https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30747209/whitsbury-2017?post_id=550280527#550280527About what I expected.might be tempted to take a gamble on Swiss S on a mare that could do with a bit of luck. (I have a few!)Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:59:27 -0500