New Posts For Thread: Last Lion retired by Darley!https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darleyJohn Ferguson has really lost the plot now. He's completely forgotten the purpose of Darley and is sinking to the same level as those who are tying simply to make a buck.oh dear. Shameful.FT your point is noted and I have considered it (even if it was a little tongue in cheek). How many new owners leave the game after spending £50k (or a part thereof)ending up with a horse that wins a 0-65 nursery (if they are lucky) and sells for £https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550261815#550261815FT your point is noted and I have considered it (even if it was a little tongue in cheek). How many new owners leave the game after spending £50k (or a part thereof)ending up with a horse that wins a 0-65 nursery (if they are lucky) and sells for £Tue, 25 Oct 2016 14:33:32 -0500Oh dear Truehoncho, most of me agrees so much and I indulgently breed occasionally one of the slow maturing stamina brigade myself , knowing I'll have to race them myself. Worse in this benighted country everyone thinks sprinters equal precocity, whihttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550261029#550261029Oh dear Truehoncho, most of me agrees so much and I indulgently breed occasionally one of the slow maturing stamina brigade myself , knowing I'll have to race them myself. Worse in this benighted country everyone thinks sprinters equal precocity, whiTue, 25 Oct 2016 13:11:02 -0500You know what PotM, it's the one thing I don't get is this all encompassing demand for precociousness. It just isn't that economically worth it. If you can get a gelding that runs until he is 5 or 6 at a decent grade then surely for the vast majorityhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550260929#550260929You know what PotM, it's the one thing I don't get is this all encompassing demand for precociousness. It just isn't that economically worth it. If you can get a gelding that runs until he is 5 or 6 at a decent grade then surely for the vast majorityTue, 25 Oct 2016 12:58:52 -0500Or maybe the covering books need to be restricted, what chance has anyone got when dark angel churns out 100+ foals every year the vast majority of which are rubbish. .... Take coolmore and how much saddlers well line dross are they allowed to produchttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550255327#550255327Or maybe the covering books need to be restricted, what chance has anyone got when dark angel churns out 100+ foals every year the vast majority of which are rubbish. .... Take coolmore and how much saddlers well line dross are they allowed to producMon, 24 Oct 2016 15:59:41 -0500I'm not sure restricted races are the way ahead, there are a number of initiatives on the ground that are being tried but are looking a bit slow to get started. I quite like the idea of your series though cacique.As the Dubawi Galileo market doesn'thttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550255149#550255149I'm not sure restricted races are the way ahead, there are a number of initiatives on the ground that are being tried but are looking a bit slow to get started. I quite like the idea of your series though cacique.As the Dubawi Galileo market doesn'tMon, 24 Oct 2016 15:16:54 -0500That's a good point about his last run being too good to be true.Also an excellent point about the sales races, make it a series, win and your in, for an unbelievable prize over a mile and a half on champions day. There should also be more races resthttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550254867#550254867That's a good point about his last run being too good to be true.Also an excellent point about the sales races, make it a series, win and your in, for an unbelievable prize over a mile and a half on champions day. There should also be more races restMon, 24 Oct 2016 14:17:58 -0500Is this not the case of his last run looked to good to be true. If so whoever trained him will struggle get out at the top of the cycle.The issue here is the BHA and Irish equivalent doing enough to promote horse racing not 2yo racing.How about bannihttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550250203#550250203Is this not the case of his last run looked to good to be true. If so whoever trained him will struggle get out at the top of the cycle.The issue here is the BHA and Irish equivalent doing enough to promote horse racing not 2yo racing.How about banniMon, 24 Oct 2016 03:25:21 -0500Absolutely Neil,he may just be having a bit of bad luck but a lot of MJ's horses have not gone on even to see out their 2yo season.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550239887#550239887Absolutely Neil,he may just be having a bit of bad luck but a lot of MJ's horses have not gone on even to see out their 2yo season.Sun, 23 Oct 2016 03:55:36 -0500Johnston made an interesting comment about the horse never going 2 consecutive days without being ridden, an insight into his value system. His last Middle Park winner awzaan looked vey promising, Lumiere, there's a history of this.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550238391#550238391Johnston made an interesting comment about the horse never going 2 consecutive days without being ridden, an insight into his value system. His last Middle Park winner awzaan looked vey promising, Lumiere, there's a history of this.Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:07:50 -0500He's trained by someone whereby one can say with 90% certainty it won't train on satisfactorily. Trainer will ruin the horses rep next year and that offer won't be there.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30745435/last-lion-retired-by-darley?post_id=550238383#550238383He's trained by someone whereby one can say with 90% certainty it won't train on satisfactorily. Trainer will ruin the horses rep next year and that offer won't be there.Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:06:18 -0500