New Posts For Thread: Italian Blacktype.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktypeMy mare, a very expensive yearling but a hopeless racehorse, has some very impressive horses a couple of generations back. Her dam was a half sister to a Irish Derby second but things weren't looking that great when I found her in a very sorry stateI agree with you about MB's 2yo's Proxygene, but if Telescope was in the mix then I assumed precociousness was not the primary focus. He will continue to get sprint group winners in the coming years and the influx of mares he got 3 years ago will prohttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547525631#547525631I agree with you about MB's 2yo's Proxygene, but if Telescope was in the mix then I assumed precociousness was not the primary focus. He will continue to get sprint group winners in the coming years and the influx of mares he got 3 years ago will proWed, 20 Jan 2016 04:28:52 -0600Farrh was operated on for bone chips, I believe more than once.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547524301#547524301Farrh was operated on for bone chips, I believe more than once.Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:15:42 -0600I like the idea of Farhh PP and hadn't seen the drop in fee so definitely needs further thought. He seems to have a lot of barrens in the return of mares which I presume is a concern though. He appears to have a massive splint on his off fore so I wohttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547521517#547521517I like the idea of Farhh PP and hadn't seen the drop in fee so definitely needs further thought. He seems to have a lot of barrens in the return of mares which I presume is a concern though. He appears to have a massive splint on his off fore so I woTue, 19 Jan 2016 17:16:22 -0600I have Mon Bond in the bottom 20 sires of two year olds, not as bad as that with his older runners. Suddenly popular; for me suddenly not.I Dont mind Pastoral Pursuits but 'cover by numbers' suggests he likes Montjeu hence the suggestion. Steady bookhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547520313#547520313I have Mon Bond in the bottom 20 sires of two year olds, not as bad as that with his older runners. Suddenly popular; for me suddenly not.I Dont mind Pastoral Pursuits but 'cover by numbers' suggests he likes Montjeu hence the suggestion. Steady bookTue, 19 Jan 2016 15:42:43 -0600I will be using Telescope but not until his 3/4th season when he is cheapest. There is very little chance he will prove commercial so little point paying 1st season premium.I don't see Pastoral Pursuits as very commercial and he isn't as good as Monshttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547518661#547518661I will be using Telescope but not until his 3/4th season when he is cheapest. There is very little chance he will prove commercial so little point paying 1st season premium.I don't see Pastoral Pursuits as very commercial and he isn't as good as MonsTue, 19 Jan 2016 14:09:17 -0600Farhh? Only £8k from initial £17.5 and also a son of Pivotal with stamina on his Dam side which could suit your mare's page.Obviously unproven and 4th season very risky if wanting to sell but if you are happy to race then maybe worth a look?Anyonehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547515585#547515585Farhh? Only £8k from initial £17.5 and also a son of Pivotal with stamina on his Dam side which could suit your mare's page.Obviously unproven and 4th season very risky if wanting to sell but if you are happy to race then maybe worth a look?AnyoneTue, 19 Jan 2016 08:29:59 -0600Proxy, Pastoral Pursuits would be a bad choice for temperament in my view, but he's a fair sire, Telescope Mustajeeb and Delegator unproven as to either. Nayef lovely big horse and classy sire, but unlikely to impart speed and precocity to this mare.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547513185#547513185Proxy, Pastoral Pursuits would be a bad choice for temperament in my view, but he's a fair sire, Telescope Mustajeeb and Delegator unproven as to either. Nayef lovely big horse and classy sire, but unlikely to impart speed and precocity to this mare.Tue, 19 Jan 2016 02:42:42 -0600I'm not so good at the cryptography but think I've finally locked on. Can't find your first direction but if it was Galileo based all well and good. For speed I would also look at Pastoral Pursuits, now taking what chances he's had, proven and boughthttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547509143#547509143I'm not so good at the cryptography but think I've finally locked on. Can't find your first direction but if it was Galileo based all well and good. For speed I would also look at Pastoral Pursuits, now taking what chances he's had, proven and boughtMon, 18 Jan 2016 17:20:35 -0600Thank you very much for all the advice. I will go and see them at Bearstone as I have always thought Firebreak looked a very good sort; a bit like Kyllachy in the photos but maybe that's just the colour. I remember that Primadonna was a big exponenthttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547506869#547506869Thank you very much for all the advice. I will go and see them at Bearstone as I have always thought Firebreak looked a very good sort; a bit like Kyllachy in the photos but maybe that's just the colour. I remember that Primadonna was a big exponentMon, 18 Jan 2016 14:39:17 -0600In addition to Montjeu, you have also High Top in the damline who I have always found to be a transmitter of a temperament issue - in fact, I believe that it is his influence through Top Ville that gave Montjeu that character. So you need sires who ahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30639323/italian-blacktype?post_id=547505205#547505205In addition to Montjeu, you have also High Top in the damline who I have always found to be a transmitter of a temperament issue - in fact, I believe that it is his influence through Top Ville that gave Montjeu that character. So you need sires who aMon, 18 Jan 2016 11:59:20 -0600