New Posts For Thread: When I was a young boy, an old man told me... (calling breeding students of the 1980s and 1960s)

New Posts For Thread: When I was a young boy, an old man told me... (calling breeding students of the 1980s and 1960s)https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960sthat the stallions around now (that was circa 1989) were nothing compared to the ones around 25 years earlier (1960s),And now, I think the ones around these days are poor compared to the ones from a quarter of a century ago, but I'm errrrrr not takinPotm, I agree that Mill Reef should be there. I came up with the list off the cuff and left out one of my all time favourite racehorses.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543888177#543888177Potm, I agree that Mill Reef should be there. I came up with the list off the cuff and left out one of my all time favourite racehorses.Wed, 11 Mar 2015 05:00:11 -0500hi laluche- I think the term is nostalgia.... If all the stallions long ago were wonderful then all the horses long ago would have been wonderful when obviously there were just as many useless horses back then. The percentages of stakes winners for thttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543868033#543868033hi laluche- I think the term is nostalgia.... If all the stallions long ago were wonderful then all the horses long ago would have been wonderful when obviously there were just as many useless horses back then. The percentages of stakes winners for tMon, 09 Mar 2015 17:00:37 -0500Thanks millionaire for input,I wasn't looking for a solution as such, more for your thoughts of the quality of sires of the eras in question and their resonance over (some period) of time.Not connectable... though you know way more than me in this sphttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543862191#543862191Thanks millionaire for input,I wasn't looking for a solution as such, more for your thoughts of the quality of sires of the eras in question and their resonance over (some period) of time.Not connectable... though you know way more than me in this spMon, 09 Mar 2015 10:04:26 -0500Sorry Laluche, but I don't think I can play this game!I suppose conjecture is fun but book sizes, commercial considerations, and breeder motivation have all changed so massively since then that really the two eras are not really connectable.From a grhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543861259#543861259Sorry Laluche, but I don't think I can play this game!I suppose conjecture is fun but book sizes, commercial considerations, and breeder motivation have all changed so massively since then that really the two eras are not really connectable.From a grMon, 09 Mar 2015 08:31:59 -0500You can't judge todays sires until their stallion sons and broodmares have had time to make or break their reputations. Invincible Spirit has steadily improved the quantity and quality of his offspring as he has been given better mares to cover. Kinghttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543851973#543851973You can't judge todays sires until their stallion sons and broodmares have had time to make or break their reputations. Invincible Spirit has steadily improved the quantity and quality of his offspring as he has been given better mares to cover. KingSun, 08 Mar 2015 14:47:18 -0500Good replies,I was a fan of danehill as a horse and his record as a sire is amazing, but how do sires from his time stand up against those from the earlier era?Was the gap (quality of offspring and strength of lines) between Ribot et al. and Danehillhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543847371#543847371Good replies,I was a fan of danehill as a horse and his record as a sire is amazing, but how do sires from his time stand up against those from the earlier era?Was the gap (quality of offspring and strength of lines) between Ribot et al. and DanehillSun, 08 Mar 2015 09:50:10 -0500Danehill is really amazing when you look at his progeny list on the Racing Post site.I have just picked 10 of his stallion sons and there are many moreDylan ThomasRock of GibraltarDuke of MarmaladeWesterner (a leading NH sire)MozartDansiliExceed andhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543846329#543846329Danehill is really amazing when you look at his progeny list on the Racing Post site.I have just picked 10 of his stallion sons and there are many moreDylan ThomasRock of GibraltarDuke of MarmaladeWesterner (a leading NH sire)MozartDansiliExceed andSun, 08 Mar 2015 08:14:26 -0500There are a few Stallions that leave a lasting impact on the breed and in my experience of 60 years, the main ones in Europe are Northern Dancer, Danzig, Sadlers Wells, Sharpen Up, Habitat, Danehill, Galileo. I am judging by the number of Group perfohttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543846241#543846241There are a few Stallions that leave a lasting impact on the breed and in my experience of 60 years, the main ones in Europe are Northern Dancer, Danzig, Sadlers Wells, Sharpen Up, Habitat, Danehill, Galileo. I am judging by the number of Group perfoSun, 08 Mar 2015 08:02:43 -0500Ribot was not only a great racehorse, (undefeated in 16 races including winning the Arc by the greatest distance) he was an outstanding stallion. Nothing standing today or in 1989 would come near to his abilities.Stallions today can cover 200+ mares,https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543831391#543831391Ribot was not only a great racehorse, (undefeated in 16 races including winning the Arc by the greatest distance) he was an outstanding stallion. Nothing standing today or in 1989 would come near to his abilities.Stallions today can cover 200+ mares,Sat, 07 Mar 2015 05:19:17 -0600that the stallions around now (that was circa 1989) were nothing compared to the ones around 25 years earlier (1960s),And now, I think the ones around these days are poor compared to the ones from a quarter of a century ago, but I'm errrrrr not takinhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30452497/when-i-was-a-young-boy-an-old-man-told-me-calling-breeding-students-of-the-1980s-and-1960s?post_id=543829615#543829615that the stallions around now (that was circa 1989) were nothing compared to the ones around 25 years earlier (1960s),And now, I think the ones around these days are poor compared to the ones from a quarter of a century ago, but I'm errrrrr not takinSat, 07 Mar 2015 00:11:40 -0600