New Posts For Thread: Unfashionable 2000 Guiness winnershttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winnersI was recently looking at where some of the 2000 guiness winners of past 5 years have been doing at studand most do not seemed to be well received by breeders.What i am wondering is this more down to the whoowned and trained the winner than more downI agree what i would of found interesting is how so many small trainers like pam sly find these little diamonds in therough.Id put that down to attitude of a lot bloodstock agents not willing to risk on a filly who would be back woulds andprobable quhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536463783#536463783I agree what i would of found interesting is how so many small trainers like pam sly find these little diamonds in therough.Id put that down to attitude of a lot bloodstock agents not willing to risk on a filly who would be back woulds andprobable quThu, 14 Nov 2013 16:14:41 -0600The least fashionable 1000 Guineas winner of recent years was probably Speciosa although she did have Group 1 winning grandparents (Danehill, Sharpen Up and Alleged) and her apparent obscurity (she made 30k as a yearling) stemmed from the small yardhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536454103#536454103The least fashionable 1000 Guineas winner of recent years was probably Speciosa although she did have Group 1 winning grandparents (Danehill, Sharpen Up and Alleged) and her apparent obscurity (she made 30k as a yearling) stemmed from the small yardThu, 14 Nov 2013 03:09:13 -0600Thank you kemoh i have been searching around for different sort of data as i have always been interested in the breed but once i become a stable lad my time was forever taken up so never got much chance to really look into the breeding more.Now i hahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536402297#536402297Thank you kemoh i have been searching around for different sort of data as i have always been interested in the breed but once i become a stable lad my time was forever taken up so never got much chance to really look into the breeding more.Now i haSun, 10 Nov 2013 13:58:23 -0600THE Haras de Saint Arnoult in Normandy, France, will be the new home of dual Guineas winner Cockney Rebel next year (2014)http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/bloodstock/saint-arnoult-the-new-home-of-cockney-rebel/1308810/https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536401903#536401903THE Haras de Saint Arnoult in Normandy, France, will be the new home of dual Guineas winner Cockney Rebel next year (2014)http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/bloodstock/saint-arnoult-the-new-home-of-cockney-rebel/1308810/Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:42:22 -0600dont know how many earlier but:- 2009 he was at 49, then 31,91,50 and has he not now been packed off to France?https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536401793#536401793dont know how many earlier but:- 2009 he was at 49, then 31,91,50 and has he not now been packed off to France?Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:37:51 -0600I was having a look back Cockney rebel H.Q guineas win and he beat a very strong field there that day.I do wonder how well received he has been by breeders as his pedigree is not one that jumps out of the page for the bigger breeders to chance i woulhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536401301#536401301I was having a look back Cockney rebel H.Q guineas win and he beat a very strong field there that day.I do wonder how well received he has been by breeders as his pedigree is not one that jumps out of the page for the bigger breeders to chance i woulSun, 10 Nov 2013 13:10:51 -0600Often thought Cockney Rebel was a very underrated horse. No fluke about his Guineas win and then bolted up in the Irish version. Would have also won a very good renewal of the St James' Palace if not for being injured mid race and veering his chancehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536397819#536397819Often thought Cockney Rebel was a very underrated horse. No fluke about his Guineas win and then bolted up in the Irish version. Would have also won a very good renewal of the St James' Palace if not for being injured mid race and veering his chanceSun, 10 Nov 2013 09:33:22 -0600I was recently looking at where some of the 2000 guiness winners of past 5 years have been doing at studand most do not seemed to be well received by breeders.What i am wondering is this more down to the whoowned and trained the winner than more downhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/30132073/unfashionable-2000-guiness-winners?post_id=536395269#536395269I was recently looking at where some of the 2000 guiness winners of past 5 years have been doing at studand most do not seemed to be well received by breeders.What i am wondering is this more down to the whoowned and trained the winner than more downSun, 10 Nov 2013 06:56:51 -0600