New Posts For Thread: Camelot - he almost fooled the lot of ushttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-usHas there ever been such a mighty fall from grace? Ten months ago we eagerly anticipated an unbeaten Triple Crown winner. Had he won at Doncaster he would have probably been lauded as a 'great', 'a giant of the turf' and he could reasonably expect ai cannot see him standing for more than 27k. but thats going to look great for commercial breeders who will use him at bargain prices in his 2nd and 3rd years. We must remember that he was a 500k yearling and alway had immense looks and had the "natuhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=534520513#534520513i cannot see him standing for more than 27k. but thats going to look great for commercial breeders who will use him at bargain prices in his 2nd and 3rd years. We must remember that he was a 500k yearling and alway had immense looks and had the "natuWed, 07 Aug 2013 06:51:28 -0500He'll still stand for a lot more than 20k as a Guineas and Derby winner (also a son of Montjeu), I'd have said 40 or 50.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=534507997#534507997He'll still stand for a lot more than 20k as a Guineas and Derby winner (also a son of Montjeu), I'd have said 40 or 50.Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:36:56 -0500ballydoyle have enough horses at home to work out how good camelot was going to be this year. surely they would have known that he was a group 2 horse at best and made some statement that in light of his colic he has not come to himself this year andhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=534485485#534485485ballydoyle have enough horses at home to work out how good camelot was going to be this year. surely they would have known that he was a group 2 horse at best and made some statement that in light of his colic he has not come to himself this year andMon, 05 Aug 2013 21:05:30 -0500Coolmore yesterday evening: "At the moment Camelot is unlikely to run, he hasn't really been himself this season and is going on the easy list for the rest of the month."I think you'll find moyes in interpreting the above that he worked yesterday andhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=533611663#533611663Coolmore yesterday evening: "At the moment Camelot is unlikely to run, he hasn't really been himself this season and is going on the easy list for the rest of the month."I think you'll find moyes in interpreting the above that he worked yesterday andThu, 04 Jul 2013 05:18:24 -0500o'brien says hes giving camelot a break so doubt he'll be doing much on the gallops this week.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=533596109#533596109o'brien says hes giving camelot a break so doubt he'll be doing much on the gallops this week.Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:48:27 -0500The trainer will want to keep the show on the road and, if he manages to keep him in training, it will be the toughest task yet for him to get this horse back to where he was. Ironically it might be that is a cup horse which would be of no interest thttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=533591775#533591775The trainer will want to keep the show on the road and, if he manages to keep him in training, it will be the toughest task yet for him to get this horse back to where he was. Ironically it might be that is a cup horse which would be of no interest tWed, 03 Jul 2013 10:37:39 -0500They certainly are going to have to push the Coolmore PR attack button. Not least because AOB increasingly sounds either delusional or silly going on how incredible the horse is and how they always do whats right for the horse, then in same sentencehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=533505219#533505219They certainly are going to have to push the Coolmore PR attack button. Not least because AOB increasingly sounds either delusional or silly going on how incredible the horse is and how they always do whats right for the horse, then in same sentenceSun, 30 Jun 2013 03:38:08 -0500I think there is a middle way here. He was avery good 2yo and until the Derby, by far the best staying 3yo of his generation. Since then he has been shown to be the best of a poor year, has deteriorated alarmingly as have many of his victims in the Dhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=533448981#533448981I think there is a middle way here. He was avery good 2yo and until the Derby, by far the best staying 3yo of his generation. Since then he has been shown to be the best of a poor year, has deteriorated alarmingly as have many of his victims in the DFri, 28 Jun 2013 03:03:40 -0500I can see your point PM but in my view he is a Ford Mondeo masquerading as a Ferrari. Anyway,I see that he still has four G1 entries in the coming weeks so he has every opportunity to redeem his reputationhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=533436165#533436165I can see your point PM but in my view he is a Ford Mondeo masquerading as a Ferrari. Anyway,I see that he still has four G1 entries in the coming weeks so he has every opportunity to redeem his reputationThu, 27 Jun 2013 14:20:29 -0500Oh dear The Gotchee you are completely missing my point,what I wrote above was not my own personal summation of Camelot's ability but the 'spin' that will be put on him by his stallion marketing people.Hence why breeders are recognising his commerciahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29978115/camelot---he-almost-fooled-the-lot-of-us?post_id=533421909#533421909Oh dear The Gotchee you are completely missing my point,what I wrote above was not my own personal summation of Camelot's ability but the 'spin' that will be put on him by his stallion marketing people.Hence why breeders are recognising his commerciaThu, 27 Jun 2013 04:39:12 -0500