New Posts For Thread: Derby Postscript.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscriptForget Galileo for a minute! I said try to forget him for a minute! I just dug out the dvd of last year's Coventry Stakes, and here is a fair transcription of the interview between Rishi Persad and Jim Bolger, after Dawn Approach had won :Rishi: Jim.From Wiki : "Dr. Fager was known for his duels with Damascus at Aqueduct Racetrack. Damascus's connections took to entering a "rabbit" to engage Dr. Fager in a speed duel, knowing that Dr. Fager could not be rated by his jockey. In four meetings betwhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=533017923#533017923From Wiki : "Dr. Fager was known for his duels with Damascus at Aqueduct Racetrack. Damascus's connections took to entering a "rabbit" to engage Dr. Fager in a speed duel, knowing that Dr. Fager could not be rated by his jockey. In four meetings betwWed, 12 Jun 2013 13:37:12 -0500We are in danger of getting overwhelmed by foreign competition in our Group races. It used to be just the Irish and French to worry about but recently the German horses are winning good races and of course the Aussies have the sprinters. On top of thhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532985269#532985269We are in danger of getting overwhelmed by foreign competition in our Group races. It used to be just the Irish and French to worry about but recently the German horses are winning good races and of course the Aussies have the sprinters. On top of thTue, 11 Jun 2013 09:44:33 -0500they were running scared, thats why the slow pace was on, wasnt dawn approach they feared it was probably liberatarian,with a steady pace throughout the race, that might of beaten the winner, would of been finishing fast as theirs would ofbeen slowinhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532876257#532876257they were running scared, thats why the slow pace was on, wasnt dawn approach they feared it was probably liberatarian,with a steady pace throughout the race, that might of beaten the winner, would of been finishing fast as theirs would ofbeen slowinFri, 07 Jun 2013 04:45:25 -0500Actually Roadrunner, I think that not running Frankel in the US was not particularly well managed just well avoided to keep an unbeaten tag (you could probably argue there were other challenges for him aswell). F isn't in my book as the greatest everhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532852979#532852979Actually Roadrunner, I think that not running Frankel in the US was not particularly well managed just well avoided to keep an unbeaten tag (you could probably argue there were other challenges for him aswell). F isn't in my book as the greatest everThu, 06 Jun 2013 08:05:41 -0500Can't see how his reputation was ruined. He was a cracking good two year old, on the go the whole season, and an easy winner of the 2000 Guineas. So he's not Mill Reef...without Coolmore the Derby would have been bloody awful this year.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532851563#532851563Can't see how his reputation was ruined. He was a cracking good two year old, on the go the whole season, and an easy winner of the 2000 Guineas. So he's not Mill Reef...without Coolmore the Derby would have been bloody awful this year.Thu, 06 Jun 2013 06:49:49 -0500Just how did Ballydoyle/Coolmore ruin the Derby by breeding and then training enough good horses to run in the Derby vs someone who has overseen drugging of his horses, had vast resources but still failed to produce a contender and then had to buy hihttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532790561#532790561Just how did Ballydoyle/Coolmore ruin the Derby by breeding and then training enough good horses to run in the Derby vs someone who has overseen drugging of his horses, had vast resources but still failed to produce a contender and then had to buy hiMon, 03 Jun 2013 15:11:10 -0500dont feel sorry for the horse, but they are ruining the derby race, no trainer should be able to train half the fieldand play games like they did, spoiled that race for all horse racing fans, of the world, that horse will always beremembered for thehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532786509#532786509dont feel sorry for the horse, but they are ruining the derby race, no trainer should be able to train half the fieldand play games like they did, spoiled that race for all horse racing fans, of the world, that horse will always beremembered for theMon, 03 Jun 2013 12:45:34 -0500So road runner they were 1) 'foolish to think that he had any chance at 12 furlongs'.2) 'form students gave Dawn Approach no chance of winning the derby'and 3)'including the breeding side of things'Sounds like if everyone expected the result they gothttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532780021#532780021So road runner they were 1) 'foolish to think that he had any chance at 12 furlongs'.2) 'form students gave Dawn Approach no chance of winning the derby'and 3)'including the breeding side of things'Sounds like if everyone expected the result they gotMon, 03 Jun 2013 08:25:10 -0500they have ruined that horse's reputation running in the derby, foolish to think that had any chance at 12f.makes you realize how clever and smart,sir henry cecil and connections managed THE GREATEST FRANKEL'S racingcareer. most form students gave dawhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532778755#532778755they have ruined that horse's reputation running in the derby, foolish to think that had any chance at 12f.makes you realize how clever and smart,sir henry cecil and connections managed THE GREATEST FRANKEL'S racingcareer. most form students gave dawMon, 03 Jun 2013 07:17:45 -0500It's a black and white old world that you live in the Gotchee!I suppose that as a horse that has looked rock solid temperament wise they just thought he would settle off a slow pace or a quick one. A pacemaker might have been a good idea but it wouilhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29951903/derby-postscript?post_id=532778081#532778081It's a black and white old world that you live in the Gotchee!I suppose that as a horse that has looked rock solid temperament wise they just thought he would settle off a slow pace or a quick one. A pacemaker might have been a good idea but it wouilMon, 03 Jun 2013 06:34:06 -0500