New Posts For Thread: ???https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/Slightly dull old request here I'm afraid.Can the handicapper's requirement to rate a 2yo be discretionary atall?We all know the rule that a win or 3 starts and they will get a rating to qualify for Nurseries.Or do they? Can the handicapper decline tthe handicapper has the power to refuse a rating to any horse regardless of how many times it has run if in his opinion there is not enough evidence to give it a rating, happens quite a lot for various reasons, he has to obviously be able to justifyhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524388633#524388633the handicapper has the power to refuse a rating to any horse regardless of how many times it has run if in his opinion there is not enough evidence to give it a rating, happens quite a lot for various reasons, he has to obviously be able to justifySat, 22 Sep 2012 15:45:49 -0500The handicapper used to allot automatic top weight to a horse that they didn't have enough info on but with the rating system that is probably not an option now.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524369599#524369599The handicapper used to allot automatic top weight to a horse that they didn't have enough info on but with the rating system that is probably not an option now.Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:24:29 -0500Thanks for your reply yer ma. I am not going to name names as the horse in question has a slight paper trail back to me!!It really can't have been much more of case of a peeved handicapper from a trainer trying to be a bit clever. It was certainly nohttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524354851#524354851Thanks for your reply yer ma. I am not going to name names as the horse in question has a slight paper trail back to me!!It really can't have been much more of case of a peeved handicapper from a trainer trying to be a bit clever. It was certainly noFri, 21 Sep 2012 13:27:59 -0500Clearly each case is unique but to NOT give a mark to a winner or one that has finished 3 races (not tailed off) is pretty unusual. It would probably require a written explanation from the handicapper. The handicapper is NOT allowed to take a pejorhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524345219#524345219Clearly each case is unique but to NOT give a mark to a winner or one that has finished 3 races (not tailed off) is pretty unusual. It would probably require a written explanation from the handicapper. The handicapper is NOT allowed to take a pejorFri, 21 Sep 2012 07:53:26 -0500Sometimes horses won't be eligible for a handicap mark if they've gotten a wind op I believehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524316777#524316777Sometimes horses won't be eligible for a handicap mark if they've gotten a wind op I believeThu, 20 Sep 2012 08:58:35 -0500I think you're giving me too much credit there, I was fortunate/unfortunate enough depending on you're thinking to do the Trainers course at the BRS which included a talk from one of the handicappers (in fact probably the handicapper who is involvedhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524160023#524160023I think you're giving me too much credit there, I was fortunate/unfortunate enough depending on you're thinking to do the Trainers course at the BRS which included a talk from one of the handicappers (in fact probably the handicapper who is involvedSat, 15 Sep 2012 11:10:21 -0500Thanks Lairy, not part of my remit this sort of area - much more at home shovelling sh1t!I don't really need to know the nitty gritty so won't bother the handicapper as I'm happy to accept your and the good Senor's wisdomhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524158955#524158955Thanks Lairy, not part of my remit this sort of area - much more at home shovelling sh1t!I don't really need to know the nitty gritty so won't bother the handicapper as I'm happy to accept your and the good Senor's wisdomSat, 15 Sep 2012 10:37:21 -0500Yeah I'd agree - you can of course always ring up the handicapper in question and ask him! They are usually pretty happy to tell you why they have given a horse such a mark - or not in this case.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524158723#524158723Yeah I'd agree - you can of course always ring up the handicapper in question and ask him! They are usually pretty happy to tell you why they have given a horse such a mark - or not in this case.Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:29:37 -0500Thank you very much Senor. The horse in question is a 2yo and I suspected that there was something going on in line with your comments so I am very grateful for your confirmation of the handicapper's options!https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524153965#524153965Thank you very much Senor. The horse in question is a 2yo and I suspected that there was something going on in line with your comments so I am very grateful for your confirmation of the handicapper's options!Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:56:19 -0500A handicapper can refuse to give a mark if they feel they don't have enough info on the horse or if they feel the horse has been prevented from giving their best for one reason or another, hope this helps.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29379345/?post_id=524139053#524139053A handicapper can refuse to give a mark if they feel they don't have enough info on the horse or if they feel the horse has been prevented from giving their best for one reason or another, hope this helps.Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:13:14 -0500