New Posts For Thread: Lope De Vega/Lawman.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawmanLawman had a nice 2y'old maiden winner yesterday at the Curragh,one who does look like it has a future.Lawman standing for 15k down from his initial 25k fee is looking a decent prospect and does seem to be commercial do breeders rate him or not and hInteresting points. Proxy, let's hope that your Lawman does something on the track to bail himself out of the Inn of Disappointment!I know we are all very interested in sales returns happening in the here and now as after all it's all we've got. Howehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=525983753#525983753Interesting points. Proxy, let's hope that your Lawman does something on the track to bail himself out of the Inn of Disappointment!I know we are all very interested in sales returns happening in the here and now as after all it's all we've got. HoweSun, 11 Nov 2012 14:00:55 -0600you are dead right truhoncho,I've many times made that very point,in short you are always better being at the top end of a stallions book than mid to lower.It's not always the case,but largely if your mares capable of getting a 40k yearling she's ashttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=525968257#525968257you are dead right truhoncho,I've many times made that very point,in short you are always better being at the top end of a stallions book than mid to lower.It's not always the case,but largely if your mares capable of getting a 40k yearling she's asSun, 11 Nov 2012 05:16:15 -0600Its a good point about sales returns yer ma. I've said in another thread that i think Tamayuz is worth using becuase of his sales returns. I often wonder what commercial breeding really is. I think fashion can seriously cloud the judgement. Stallionshttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=525960103#525960103Its a good point about sales returns yer ma. I've said in another thread that i think Tamayuz is worth using becuase of his sales returns. I often wonder what commercial breeding really is. I think fashion can seriously cloud the judgement. StallionsSat, 10 Nov 2012 17:12:22 -0600To me that fee increase is simpy poor stallion management - I like Lawman and a deal around 10-12k would interest me with a good mare which is what they need to keep momentum going. Instead they put it beyond my valuation which is NOT based on a fewhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=525959115#525959115To me that fee increase is simpy poor stallion management - I like Lawman and a deal around 10-12k would interest me with a good mare which is what they need to keep momentum going. Instead they put it beyond my valuation which is NOT based on a fewSat, 10 Nov 2012 16:31:57 -0600Our yearling sold for 5.5k weak knees but a good walker; just a late developer hopefully for somebody else and the mare. Her foal looks a bit racier but is a filly and by Azamour...https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=525948675#525948675Our yearling sold for 5.5k weak knees but a good walker; just a late developer hopefully for somebody else and the mare. Her foal looks a bit racier but is a filly and by Azamour...Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:47:59 -0600So then. he finished with a flourish and his stock rather like his fathers are quite partial to a bit of cut.A 5k increase in fee doesn't seem unreasonable but I am a little worried that he is heading to a workmanlike career that doesn't set hearts rhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=525942517#525942517So then. he finished with a flourish and his stock rather like his fathers are quite partial to a bit of cut.A 5k increase in fee doesn't seem unreasonable but I am a little worried that he is heading to a workmanlike career that doesn't set hearts rSat, 10 Nov 2012 08:19:28 -0600I'm sure his breeders were more than delighted with that Pot M.Any GR1 is a massive achievement for any breeder but I'm sure his connections felt its almost extra special breeding a Royal Ascot one!and like you say it gives the stallion a huge help ahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=521201283#521201283I'm sure his breeders were more than delighted with that Pot M.Any GR1 is a massive achievement for any breeder but I'm sure his connections felt its almost extra special breeding a Royal Ascot one!and like you say it gives the stallion a huge help aSun, 24 Jun 2012 14:53:24 -0500Well Lawman had one hell of an update on Tuesday. With the St James's Palace perhaps being the most important race of the week Ballylinch must feel a little more relaxed.It's a fabulous race to win and indeed I am sure all connections of Most Improvehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=521153455#521153455Well Lawman had one hell of an update on Tuesday. With the St James's Palace perhaps being the most important race of the week Ballylinch must feel a little more relaxed.It's a fabulous race to win and indeed I am sure all connections of Most ImproveSat, 23 Jun 2012 08:11:57 -0500Ah well, sense, or more precisely running out of time prevailed, so any divided loyalties in the Irish 1000 now go to Janey Muddles; is she a NR yet? and what of Most Improved?https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=519994611#519994611Ah well, sense, or more precisely running out of time prevailed, so any divided loyalties in the Irish 1000 now go to Janey Muddles; is she a NR yet? and what of Most Improved?Wed, 23 May 2012 17:18:01 -0500LDV is plain but should have tough strong sorts and could be worth a chance. I like his sire a lot but I also like Kendor. Lawman needs a big winner he's way overpriced to me. I'd have LDV ahead of him regardless of the heads cause they have the limbhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/29105579/lope-de-vegalawman?post_id=519589275#519589275LDV is plain but should have tough strong sorts and could be worth a chance. I like his sire a lot but I also like Kendor. Lawman needs a big winner he's way overpriced to me. I'd have LDV ahead of him regardless of the heads cause they have the limbFri, 11 May 2012 18:10:59 -0500