New Posts For Thread: Dick Turpin to stand for £7000https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000Is my understanding. And you can have Bahamian Bounty at £8500, Cockney Rebel at £4000 and Pastoral Pusuits at £6500.Do you not think Wily that with 3 crops of racing age under his belt P P will not be judged on his race record and sire much these days?If one uses him in 2012 then your 1st opportunity to sell (as a foal) there will be 5 crops of (temperamental?) ruhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512263143#512263143Do you not think Wily that with 3 crops of racing age under his belt P P will not be judged on his race record and sire much these days?If one uses him in 2012 then your 1st opportunity to sell (as a foal) there will be 5 crops of (temperamental?) ruMon, 07 Nov 2011 07:20:28 -0600Totally agree yer maThink there are plenty of more solid stallions in and around his price bracket. Feel he should be closer to 4.5k mark. Still, I'm more likely to be sending him a mare than DTurpin.July cup winning son of BBounty V Jean Prat winnerhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512235819#512235819Totally agree yer maThink there are plenty of more solid stallions in and around his price bracket. Feel he should be closer to 4.5k mark. Still, I'm more likely to be sending him a mare than DTurpin.July cup winning son of BBounty V Jean Prat winnerSun, 06 Nov 2011 14:45:54 -0600Pastoral Pursuits at 6.5k is laughable - if you need evidence..there were 15 of his in the last Donny yearling sale. A 2011 median of under £10k. Staggeringly bad value. Whitsbury seem alone in being on the money with their stallions. The Irish ahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512213777#512213777Pastoral Pursuits at 6.5k is laughable - if you need evidence..there were 15 of his in the last Donny yearling sale. A 2011 median of under £10k. Staggeringly bad value. Whitsbury seem alone in being on the money with their stallions. The Irish aSun, 06 Nov 2011 06:33:10 -0600Wilycayote,we dont disagree that much. Of course i was being a bit simplistic to try and get the point across and I agree there are other factors. I did say that if you thought SS was cheap starting off then you may justify the 4th season fee. Howevehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512122629#512122629Wilycayote,we dont disagree that much. Of course i was being a bit simplistic to try and get the point across and I agree there are other factors. I did say that if you thought SS was cheap starting off then you may justify the 4th season fee. HoweveFri, 04 Nov 2011 08:52:10 -0500i didnt know f ag packet was a rude word!https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512118743#512118743i didnt know f ag packet was a rude word!Fri, 04 Nov 2011 07:01:14 -0500truehoncho, thank goodness we all have different opinions but for me your point is a bit too simplistic.Some studs choose to charge absolute top whack for their new stallions in their first year (Ballylinch?) and then expect to reduce this significanhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512118711#512118711truehoncho, thank goodness we all have different opinions but for me your point is a bit too simplistic.Some studs choose to charge absolute top whack for their new stallions in their first year (Ballylinch?) and then expect to reduce this significanFri, 04 Nov 2011 07:00:11 -0500i think the point to consider with 3rd and 4th season stallions is that most stallion will fail, and if your shopping at the value end even more of them will fail. If you use them in the 3rd or 4th season it doesn't matter how good they were, how muchttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512095811#512095811i think the point to consider with 3rd and 4th season stallions is that most stallion will fail, and if your shopping at the value end even more of them will fail. If you use them in the 3rd or 4th season it doesn't matter how good they were, how mucThu, 03 Nov 2011 16:39:27 -0500truehoncho, I'll thank you to not expose my galloping hypocrisy on here I don't like to use 2nd season sires much but I will do. However 4th season is a real no no in almost all circumstances so for me to pontificate on whether a 4th year fee is goodhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512094355#512094355truehoncho, I'll thank you to not expose my galloping hypocrisy on here I don't like to use 2nd season sires much but I will do. However 4th season is a real no no in almost all circumstances so for me to pontificate on whether a 4th year fee is goodThu, 03 Nov 2011 16:09:54 -0500SS went to stud at 6.5k. Unless you think this was very cheap then 5.5k for 4th season doesn't offer much value. Maybe Showcasing isn't so bad but I still think it's not a great incentive to use a second season value type stallion.I like both of theshttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512090045#512090045SS went to stud at 6.5k. Unless you think this was very cheap then 5.5k for 4th season doesn't offer much value. Maybe Showcasing isn't so bad but I still think it's not a great incentive to use a second season value type stallion.I like both of thesThu, 03 Nov 2011 14:46:31 -0500Agree with you Pot M, £7000 for Dick Turpin would look awefully high if you got a filly!Think your being a bit tough Truehoncho. SSecret couldnt have done much more at the sales than he did. Would rather him at his price that DTurpin at his.Still ahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/28657115/dick-turpin-to-stand-for-7000?post_id=512079713#512079713Agree with you Pot M, £7000 for Dick Turpin would look awefully high if you got a filly!Think your being a bit tough Truehoncho. SSecret couldnt have done much more at the sales than he did. Would rather him at his price that DTurpin at his.Still aThu, 03 Nov 2011 10:53:42 -0500