New Posts For Thread: The Montjeu paradoxhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradoxSeems to me that although Montjeu is the best sire of middle distance horses & stayers around and rightly has a big stud fee, his best horses don't have a lot of appeal to stud owners as FLat stallions. He's overshadowed a wee bit by Galileo, he's baI suppose given Sea The Stars sire line he maybe will offer a more versatile influence than Galileo say. He is a big horse though and I am sure I am not alone in believing his immense talent got him competitive at 2 rather than any natural 'speed' orhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=503666809#503666809I suppose given Sea The Stars sire line he maybe will offer a more versatile influence than Galileo say. He is a big horse though and I am sure I am not alone in believing his immense talent got him competitive at 2 rather than any natural 'speed' orWed, 27 Jul 2011 06:12:42 -0500Yes you do seem to see more horses by fast sires out of staying mares, and I guess Midday and Sariska will have encouraged more breeders to repeating the pattern. Now Oasis Dream looks the next big thing I think a lot of middle distance mares have behttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=503619449#503619449Yes you do seem to see more horses by fast sires out of staying mares, and I guess Midday and Sariska will have encouraged more breeders to repeating the pattern. Now Oasis Dream looks the next big thing I think a lot of middle distance mares have beTue, 26 Jul 2011 16:29:38 -0500I agree Pistol.I suppose whomever devised that mating was thinking first and foremost about inbreeding to Special or some such. In my mind that would be the only reason to try the experiment as it is just too much about extremes for me.Prima donna alhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=503600029#503600029I agree Pistol.I suppose whomever devised that mating was thinking first and foremost about inbreeding to Special or some such. In my mind that would be the only reason to try the experiment as it is just too much about extremes for me.Prima donna alTue, 26 Jul 2011 13:32:37 -0500That good handicap winner the other day HIGH TWELVE has an interesting pedigree...by Montjeu ex Much Faster, a Robert Papin winner by Fasliyev.Even with that speedy damside Montjeu manages to "drag" High Twelve up to a 1m-1m 2f winner. Yes DMCK Eaglehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=503584613#503584613That good handicap winner the other day HIGH TWELVE has an interesting pedigree...by Montjeu ex Much Faster, a Robert Papin winner by Fasliyev.Even with that speedy damside Montjeu manages to "drag" High Twelve up to a 1m-1m 2f winner. Yes DMCK EagleTue, 26 Jul 2011 11:02:08 -0500i must say i am rather enjoying the mafia'a attempt to get a sprint win into Eagle Canyon, tried at 5F and 6F. Seems a poor attempt to register a sprint win to boost his stats. Frankly they are doing a disjustice to the horse for the pure reason thathttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=503036453#503036453i must say i am rather enjoying the mafia'a attempt to get a sprint win into Eagle Canyon, tried at 5F and 6F. Seems a poor attempt to register a sprint win to boost his stats. Frankly they are doing a disjustice to the horse for the pure reason thatWed, 20 Jul 2011 16:39:11 -0500I reckon you've earned your right to the good things, if only for keeping us in check on here!But as you say, you can talk yourself into anything. I'll dig out those maps. . .Incidentally I've never been anywhere Greek. High on my list of things to phttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=500703361#500703361I reckon you've earned your right to the good things, if only for keeping us in check on here!But as you say, you can talk yourself into anything. I'll dig out those maps. . .Incidentally I've never been anywhere Greek. High on my list of things to pFri, 24 Jun 2011 17:45:20 -0500If I were you I'd get a holiday in now before the sales season looms,never been in the tunnel as we fly almost everywhere,but I am tempted to drive down south sometime,we have a little house in the Langadoc Rusillion region its fabulous and we have vhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=500700277#500700277If I were you I'd get a holiday in now before the sales season looms,never been in the tunnel as we fly almost everywhere,but I am tempted to drive down south sometime,we have a little house in the Langadoc Rusillion region its fabulous and we have vFri, 24 Jun 2011 17:07:53 -0500You're right I love it and I can spin a few sentences together - the only other language I can attempt - funnily enough I've been wondering over the last few days about having a little go at the tunnel as I've not tried it before. Seems like a very chttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=500696425#500696425You're right I love it and I can spin a few sentences together - the only other language I can attempt - funnily enough I've been wondering over the last few days about having a little go at the tunnel as I've not tried it before. Seems like a very cFri, 24 Jun 2011 16:24:54 -0500Pot M,I will see if Slick wants a new little 'houseboy' but remember she still has this 'old'one right nowand what would Mrs Millionaire say about your new job? And yeah I should feel lucky she spends some time with me,but not as lucky as she is withhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=500694445#500694445Pot M,I will see if Slick wants a new little 'houseboy' but remember she still has this 'old'one right nowand what would Mrs Millionaire say about your new job? And yeah I should feel lucky she spends some time with me,but not as lucky as she is withFri, 24 Jun 2011 16:03:24 -0500Don't worry Prima, I don't expect her to answer but thought if you ever get chance to ask her I'd love to know your ratios of old families to new.Incidentally, I think you are very lucky that she spends any time with you in Ireland atall, all those Bhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27795265/the-montjeu-paradox?post_id=500672521#500672521Don't worry Prima, I don't expect her to answer but thought if you ever get chance to ask her I'd love to know your ratios of old families to new.Incidentally, I think you are very lucky that she spends any time with you in Ireland atall, all those BFri, 24 Jun 2011 12:44:00 -0500