New Posts For Thread: sire or damsire ?https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27734361/sire-or-damsiremythical question. sires average winning distance 7.8f.....dam sire 11f.....best guess, what trip in your opinion would be ideal for the progeny ?...and is there a rule of thumb method for assessing....thanks.Lick your finger hold it above your head and guess. I suppose you would have to factor in any preference the sire and dam had for the likes of ground conditions, tracks and who the grand sire and dam were and precocity shown by the parents. But to anhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27734361/sire-or-damsire?post_id=498069549#498069549Lick your finger hold it above your head and guess. I suppose you would have to factor in any preference the sire and dam had for the likes of ground conditions, tracks and who the grand sire and dam were and precocity shown by the parents. But to anMon, 06 Jun 2011 06:03:48 -0500I think the phrase from the film Forrest Gump is spot on "average is as average does".Has anybody heard a breeder, trainer or racehorse owner say "I do hope he proves to be average"? Also, the quoted average can be very misleading, as referred to byhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27734361/sire-or-damsire?post_id=498065117#498065117I think the phrase from the film Forrest Gump is spot on "average is as average does".Has anybody heard a breeder, trainer or racehorse owner say "I do hope he proves to be average"? Also, the quoted average can be very misleading, as referred to byMon, 06 Jun 2011 04:21:21 -0500Try and find the "most common winning distance" of a sire's progeny if you can. It is more informative than the average. It is also useful if you can find out the number of winners at each distance. The average could be based on very small numbershttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27734361/sire-or-damsire?post_id=497972117#497972117Try and find the "most common winning distance" of a sire's progeny if you can. It is more informative than the average. It is also useful if you can find out the number of winners at each distance. The average could be based on very small numbersSun, 05 Jun 2011 02:29:20 -0500If those numbers are from the RP they are misleading.Their Dam Sire numbers are actually sires ratings just quoted as dam sire, not dam sire data.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27734361/sire-or-damsire?post_id=497970121#497970121If those numbers are from the RP they are misleading.Their Dam Sire numbers are actually sires ratings just quoted as dam sire, not dam sire data.Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:13:42 -0500No rules of thumb in this game laynplay - it's a bl@@dy mystery to us all!Some stallions, Montjeu & Dalakhani at one end, Exceed and Excel and Royal Applause at the other are about as strong an influence for stamina or speed as is possible. If they ghttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27734361/sire-or-damsire?post_id=497910445#497910445No rules of thumb in this game laynplay - it's a bl@@dy mystery to us all!Some stallions, Montjeu & Dalakhani at one end, Exceed and Excel and Royal Applause at the other are about as strong an influence for stamina or speed as is possible. If they gSat, 04 Jun 2011 11:17:18 -0500mythical question. sires average winning distance 7.8f.....dam sire 11f.....best guess, what trip in your opinion would be ideal for the progeny ?...and is there a rule of thumb method for assessing....thanks.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/27734361/sire-or-damsire?post_id=497907525#497907525mythical question. sires average winning distance 7.8f.....dam sire 11f.....best guess, what trip in your opinion would be ideal for the progeny ?...and is there a rule of thumb method for assessing....thanks.Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:43:08 -0500