New Posts For Thread: Pivotal's fee down to 55Khttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55kFrom 65K this year.What do you think of that?As a punter number of winners must be important sageform and as I've said before I enjoy those statistics. Please accept my apologies for a flippant comment.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=474952177#474952177As a punter number of winners must be important sageform and as I've said before I enjoy those statistics. Please accept my apologies for a flippant comment.Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:17:14 -0600Depends on your criteria. Mine is number of winners in a year and Kyllachy has matched Pivotal on that score while Captain Rio is getting closer.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=474944357#474944357Depends on your criteria. Mine is number of winners in a year and Kyllachy has matched Pivotal on that score while Captain Rio is getting closer.Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:10:15 -0600I've spent most of this evening searching for aviating pigs, but have yet to spot any. When I do I'll give a little thought to Kyllachy and Captain Rio being better sires than their Fatherhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=474839749#474839749I've spent most of this evening searching for aviating pigs, but have yet to spot any. When I do I'll give a little thought to Kyllachy and Captain Rio being better sires than their FatherFri, 19 Nov 2010 12:15:52 -0600The Thompson's have ALWAYS had totally unique ideas about pricing their stallions,they go up and down like a yo yo.Is Pivotal really that good?Or has his popularity sprung from the Darley/Coolmore boycott at the sales?Lots saw him as neutral,now mindhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=474800613#474800613The Thompson's have ALWAYS had totally unique ideas about pricing their stallions,they go up and down like a yo yo.Is Pivotal really that good?Or has his popularity sprung from the Darley/Coolmore boycott at the sales?Lots saw him as neutral,now mindFri, 19 Nov 2010 04:11:44 -0600Seems a ridiculous price. That means the progeny need to sell for £70k plus to break even and only a minority of them will make that. Pivotal is being overtaken by 2 of his sons in Kyllachy and Captain Rio. Still a very successful sire though.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=474796985#474796985Seems a ridiculous price. That means the progeny need to sell for £70k plus to break even and only a minority of them will make that. Pivotal is being overtaken by 2 of his sons in Kyllachy and Captain Rio. Still a very successful sire though.Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:22:02 -0600I think you are right about Cheveley Park and the independent tag they have enjoyed up until now,none more so than the mighty Pivotal but now people have some real class hot sires to choose the Cheveley band will fast look stale and old hat.I find ithttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=473974897#473974897I think you are right about Cheveley Park and the independent tag they have enjoyed up until now,none more so than the mighty Pivotal but now people have some real class hot sires to choose the Cheveley band will fast look stale and old hat.I find itFri, 12 Nov 2010 13:29:02 -0600Kyllachy and Medicean were properly full last season so I suppose Cheveley get complacent. I don't know it to be fact but I think their fees are set very much with a smug 'we'll fill we're independant' (Coolmore/Darley free).Kyllachy gets an incredibhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=473967769#473967769Kyllachy and Medicean were properly full last season so I suppose Cheveley get complacent. I don't know it to be fact but I think their fees are set very much with a smug 'we'll fill we're independant' (Coolmore/Darley free).Kyllachy gets an incredibFri, 12 Nov 2010 12:26:48 -0600Well that's better than the idiotic 10k but when you look at his sales imo and no two way's about it he's starting to look old hat now 5k asking would be better then deal form 3.5k upwards.Compton Place,Piccolo,Petong all went the same way dropped ofhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=473933793#473933793Well that's better than the idiotic 10k but when you look at his sales imo and no two way's about it he's starting to look old hat now 5k asking would be better then deal form 3.5k upwards.Compton Place,Piccolo,Petong all went the same way dropped ofFri, 12 Nov 2010 07:08:45 -0600Kyllachy is down to 8K for 2011. Medicean down 3K to 12K also.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=473932757#473932757Kyllachy is down to 8K for 2011. Medicean down 3K to 12K also.Fri, 12 Nov 2010 06:58:36 -0600I think you can make a case for Kyllachy but not at 10k that is too much plenty of his did not make the fee back let alone other costs.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/26241797/pivotals-fee-down-to-55k?post_id=473866629#473866629I think you can make a case for Kyllachy but not at 10k that is too much plenty of his did not make the fee back let alone other costs.Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:20:59 -0600