New Posts For Thread: Papal Bull...https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull...a value stud option, was suprised to see his price so low at £6000.Coolmore bought him as a yearling, having probably bought him partially as a foal.They sent him to Stoute - they usually have 5 or so with him.He was then sold in training to his current owners who finished racing him.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467887941#467887941Coolmore bought him as a yearling, having probably bought him partially as a foal.They sent him to Stoute - they usually have 5 or so with him.He was then sold in training to his current owners who finished racing him.Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:04:39 -0500This lad always an enigma to me, wasn't he Coolmore owned, how did he end up with Stoute? Did they buy him during his career?https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467796713#467796713This lad always an enigma to me, wasn't he Coolmore owned, how did he end up with Stoute? Did they buy him during his career?Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:48:43 -0500Scorpion's head carriage is down to his sire,most of the Montjeu's have some quirk the good ones do at least,this horse was very good and could of had more success on the track had he been allowed to,remember his run in the King George used as a pacehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467448341#467448341Scorpion's head carriage is down to his sire,most of the Montjeu's have some quirk the good ones do at least,this horse was very good and could of had more success on the track had he been allowed to,remember his run in the King George used as a paceFri, 24 Sep 2010 01:39:57 -0500As racehorses, I didn't like Scorpion's head carriage and Papal Bull didn't look straight forward.Although they attracted 341 mares between them in 2009, (Scorpion 187 and PapalBull 154)both are overpriced.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467397505#467397505As racehorses, I didn't like Scorpion's head carriage and Papal Bull didn't look straight forward.Although they attracted 341 mares between them in 2009, (Scorpion 187 and PapalBull 154)both are overpriced.Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:28:32 -05006k for that headbanger is madness imo, surely if you are looking at a cheap son of Montjeu you would have to look at Scorpion at 5k least he was a bit more mentally stable he had speed for a plodder destroyed the record when he won the Grand Prix Dehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467367649#4673676496k for that headbanger is madness imo, surely if you are looking at a cheap son of Montjeu you would have to look at Scorpion at 5k least he was a bit more mentally stable he had speed for a plodder destroyed the record when he won the Grand Prix DeThu, 23 Sep 2010 11:44:17 -0500Talking of Gold Cup winners I did have an idea about sending one of ours to Westerner,in the end I didn't but sometimes I wish I had I do like him,he has that real touch of class with the right mare he could get a top class flat horse,Slick and I donhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467356621#467356621Talking of Gold Cup winners I did have an idea about sending one of ours to Westerner,in the end I didn't but sometimes I wish I had I do like him,he has that real touch of class with the right mare he could get a top class flat horse,Slick and I donThu, 23 Sep 2010 10:18:50 -0500Echo that. One thing is for sure, a plodder, ploddingly bred is very unlikely to win the race in my humbles. Despite oft talk of its demise, I still think you need a good touch of class to win the Gold Cup.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467349205#467349205Echo that. One thing is for sure, a plodder, ploddingly bred is very unlikely to win the race in my humbles. Despite oft talk of its demise, I still think you need a good touch of class to win the Gold Cup.Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:19:31 -0500Pot M,you are right about Galileo as 'the' stallion for the Ascot Gold Cup,you are also right it is one race I would love to win,Dalakhani is another stallion that would be likely to get a horse of Gold Cup class.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467348473#467348473Pot M,you are right about Galileo as 'the' stallion for the Ascot Gold Cup,you are also right it is one race I would love to win,Dalakhani is another stallion that would be likely to get a horse of Gold Cup class.Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:12:29 -0500Neil d. I am a big believer in the Ascot Gold Cup as is Prima Donna I think.There are plenty of good stamina stallions around, and I think that the commercial speed bias has actually strengthened the race in the last few years as so many top stayershttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467342333#467342333Neil d. I am a big believer in the Ascot Gold Cup as is Prima Donna I think.There are plenty of good stamina stallions around, and I think that the commercial speed bias has actually strengthened the race in the last few years as so many top stayersThu, 23 Sep 2010 08:21:11 -0500potentialmillionaire Joined: 17 Mar 10Replies: 374 23 Sep 10 11:19 One of the 'trickiest' sires around to try and market for sure.Isn't he just Pot M,This horse did have plenty of ability with a touch of class,but horses like him have only jumpihttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25907369/papal-bull?post_id=467332541#467332541potentialmillionaire Joined: 17 Mar 10Replies: 374 23 Sep 10 11:19 One of the 'trickiest' sires around to try and market for sure.Isn't he just Pot M,This horse did have plenty of ability with a touch of class,but horses like him have only jumpiThu, 23 Sep 2010 06:22:19 -0500