New Posts For Thread: May foal 2yo's FTO in Sep/Octhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoctAnyone give me any data on this please. I assume it's almost impossible for them to win FTO, although inevitably some will have done ?I believe 2yo FTO in a maiden equates to a 7lb penalty, so 2yo FTO My foal must be 10-14lb ?Weaning is such a matter of individuals that is hard to put a time frame on it. As a rule of thumb we wean at 5-6 mths but this is altered by so many factors as to be a rule in name only. The status of the mare is important, if she is in foal again whttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465508301#465508301Weaning is such a matter of individuals that is hard to put a time frame on it. As a rule of thumb we wean at 5-6 mths but this is altered by so many factors as to be a rule in name only. The status of the mare is important, if she is in foal again wThu, 09 Sep 2010 16:43:43 -0500Equimine. I would, I imagine, place my perception of a sires precocity equally in either the position of sire or broodmare sire.Are the positions muddied by the fact that 'cheap speed' doesn't get as much chance to live on in a pedigree as it doesn'thttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465492681#465492681Equimine. I would, I imagine, place my perception of a sires precocity equally in either the position of sire or broodmare sire.Are the positions muddied by the fact that 'cheap speed' doesn't get as much chance to live on in a pedigree as it doesn'tThu, 09 Sep 2010 14:58:09 -0500Potm,Firstly, the numbers given are for all two year old runs. In other words, the Jan figure means that January foals have run in total 35028 times (it is almost certainly more than once in most cases) and won 2798 races (again some of the horses whttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465428297#465428297Potm,Firstly, the numbers given are for all two year old runs. In other words, the Jan figure means that January foals have run in total 35028 times (it is almost certainly more than once in most cases) and won 2798 races (again some of the horses wThu, 09 Sep 2010 03:44:06 -0500I must admit I don't really see any advantages in a late weaning although I am not totally anti.I've got a nearly 7 monther to do tommorow for practical reasons. Mother nature however leaves it until the mare foals the next one and as none of us is ahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465349801#465349801I must admit I don't really see any advantages in a late weaning although I am not totally anti.I've got a nearly 7 monther to do tommorow for practical reasons. Mother nature however leaves it until the mare foals the next one and as none of us is aWed, 08 Sep 2010 14:08:29 -0500pot, I am in the old fashioned category when it comes to weaning a foal. I see a lot of advantages in a late weaning and I believe they outweigh the advocates of early weaning. Milk deterioration is often cited as reason to wean early but I would behttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465330689#465330689pot, I am in the old fashioned category when it comes to weaning a foal. I see a lot of advantages in a late weaning and I believe they outweigh the advocates of early weaning. Milk deterioration is often cited as reason to wean early but I would beWed, 08 Sep 2010 11:34:06 -0500Thanks equimine for your figures - as ever -Just a quick, and rough, calculation, ignoring the tiny June representation, shows that the Wins/Runs ratio varies from about 8% for January foals to 11.5% for Feb foals.As a breeder not punter I suppose thhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465318989#465318989Thanks equimine for your figures - as ever -Just a quick, and rough, calculation, ignoring the tiny June representation, shows that the Wins/Runs ratio varies from about 8% for January foals to 11.5% for Feb foals.As a breeder not punter I suppose thWed, 08 Sep 2010 09:53:01 -0500I have run some numbers that I hope will be useful. These are not based on “First Time Out” just the runs related to month of birth. I can narrow to First Time Out, Second etc. if required, and month of race. Hope the formatting comes out alrighthttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465288137#465288137I have run some numbers that I hope will be useful. These are not based on “First Time Out” just the runs related to month of birth. I can narrow to First Time Out, Second etc. if required, and month of race. Hope the formatting comes out alrightWed, 08 Sep 2010 02:42:21 -0500The Gotchee, hopefully the boffins will come up with the correct stats but from memory, January foals are definitely not the highest achievers. I think that Feb foals maybe do have the best record though.Ofcourse the problem is as you probably know,https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465218573#465218573The Gotchee, hopefully the boffins will come up with the correct stats but from memory, January foals are definitely not the highest achievers. I think that Feb foals maybe do have the best record though.Ofcourse the problem is as you probably know,Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:29:54 -0500I am of the belief that foals born april/may thrive much better than foals born Jan/Feb. I also believe weaning a foal under six months old is detrimental to its future development.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=465098597#465098597I am of the belief that foals born april/may thrive much better than foals born Jan/Feb. I also believe weaning a foal under six months old is detrimental to its future development.Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:29:46 -0500My trainer doesn't get unduly worried about foaling dates as he says that by and large by midsummer they have evened up. When you think about it a May foal to an April foal will differ by only 30 days or less and by this time they have seen around 80https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25758085/may-foal-2yos-fto-in-sepoct?post_id=464607205#464607205My trainer doesn't get unduly worried about foaling dates as he says that by and large by midsummer they have evened up. When you think about it a May foal to an April foal will differ by only 30 days or less and by this time they have seen around 80Fri, 03 Sep 2010 08:31:56 -0500