New Posts For Thread: My Boy Charlie at the National stud in Newmarket.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarketA couple of breeders I know have sent a few mares to this horse,they all say they were given such a good deal on his price,indicating a fee of 2/3k,in fact we ourselves received a 'phone call from NMKT asking us if we had a mare for him,the pricYes ben he did stand in Australia,and yes he was very good at 2,the sad fact is when you come to sell buyers are very dubious of horses that did all their winning on soft or heavy,but in his favour is the late Danetime,with just 3 sons at stud all fahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=461169281#461169281Yes ben he did stand in Australia,and yes he was very good at 2,the sad fact is when you come to sell buyers are very dubious of horses that did all their winning on soft or heavy,but in his favour is the late Danetime,with just 3 sons at stud all faTue, 10 Aug 2010 01:21:34 -0500If you say so but his leg action implied he may like a sounder surface. Do you not just think he was highly precocious also and as his career went on he simply didn't train on, worth noting he didn't stay in the National Stakes as opposed to being behttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=461130409#461130409If you say so but his leg action implied he may like a sounder surface. Do you not just think he was highly precocious also and as his career went on he simply didn't train on, worth noting he didn't stay in the National Stakes as opposed to being beMon, 09 Aug 2010 18:17:14 -0500Well his best form was on heavy,or soft,he ran on G/F and firm but was always beaten,I think the form speaks louder than Tommy Stacks stallion hyping voice.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=461118457#461118457Well his best form was on heavy,or soft,he ran on G/F and firm but was always beaten,I think the form speaks louder than Tommy Stacks stallion hyping voice.Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:51:15 -0500Tommy Stack never thought he wanted soft ground fwiwhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=460919885#460919885Tommy Stack never thought he wanted soft ground fwiwSun, 08 Aug 2010 08:39:37 -0500Prima, In full agreement about bad ground skewing results and I suppose as always it's a question of perception as to whether a horse who is a few lbs inferior/superior depending on the ground is popular or not.As a small breeder not playing athttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=460917633#460917633Prima, In full agreement about bad ground skewing results and I suppose as always it's a question of perception as to whether a horse who is a few lbs inferior/superior depending on the ground is popular or not.As a small breeder not playing atSun, 08 Aug 2010 08:18:30 -0500potentialmillionaire 07 Aug 10 20:34 I find it almost impossible to judge what a covering sires influence is on the price of a broodmare. Obviously a real commercial covering is a help but I've a sneaky suspicion that a less desirable coverhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=460895941#460895941potentialmillionaire 07 Aug 10 20:34 I find it almost impossible to judge what a covering sires influence is on the price of a broodmare. Obviously a real commercial covering is a help but I've a sneaky suspicion that a less desirable coverSun, 08 Aug 2010 02:00:52 -0500I find it almost impossible to judge what a covering sires influence is on the price of a broodmare. Obviously a real commercial covering is a help but I've a sneaky suspicion that a less desirable covering on a nicer mare just encourages everyohttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=460837261#460837261I find it almost impossible to judge what a covering sires influence is on the price of a broodmare. Obviously a real commercial covering is a help but I've a sneaky suspicion that a less desirable covering on a nicer mare just encourages everyoSat, 07 Aug 2010 14:34:12 -0500I asked about him and cockney rebel in Jan and got told only discounts for two. Not very impressed to hear these stories but in the end I'm glad I was put off. National Stud strike me as having little if any strategy with their stallions. I dhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=460836089#460836089I asked about him and cockney rebel in Jan and got told only discounts for two. Not very impressed to hear these stories but in the end I'm glad I was put off. National Stud strike me as having little if any strategy with their stallions. I dSat, 07 Aug 2010 14:23:34 -0500Looks like he does have very much the up hill battle with those sort of mares and it sounds like low numbers too,Danetime should help him as he was such a good source of speed,IF he does get great looking foals that really do look the part as yearlinhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=460829601#460829601Looks like he does have very much the up hill battle with those sort of mares and it sounds like low numbers too,Danetime should help him as he was such a good source of speed,IF he does get great looking foals that really do look the part as yearlinSat, 07 Aug 2010 13:30:33 -0500I heard he got a poor book of mares only know one person who used him but they did get a good deal and are happy but he is as you say a soft ground horsehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/25561717/my-boy-charlie-at-the-national-stud-in-newmarket?post_id=460799317#460799317I heard he got a poor book of mares only know one person who used him but they did get a good deal and are happy but he is as you say a soft ground horseSat, 07 Aug 2010 09:28:40 -0500