New Posts For Thread: CatherineOfAragonhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragonNicely bred filly running in the 3.00 at Navan this Sunday. A half-sister to twice Grp1 winner at 2yrs Rumplestiltskin (also 1,000 guineas favourite 2006). Sired by Holy Roman Emporer, could be one to keep an eye on?I thought she gave an encouraging first run, stayed on nicely after being pushed along quite early on. seemed to show speed in the closing stages of the race. one for the notebookhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860110#429860110I thought she gave an encouraging first run, stayed on nicely after being pushed along quite early on. seemed to show speed in the closing stages of the race. one for the notebookMon, 26 Apr 2010 10:27:14 -0500He's a horse that is going to get a good chance so hopefully he will prove he's worth it. I thought COA was quickening up nicely at the end so maybe there's improvement to come from themhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860106#429860106He's a horse that is going to get a good chance so hopefully he will prove he's worth it. I thought COA was quickening up nicely at the end so maybe there's improvement to come from themSun, 25 Apr 2010 16:05:30 -0500h.r.e. for me was not the great horse everyone seemed to think imo.anyone remember fasilav .same type of horse ,having seen several of h.r.e. runners close up i'm not impressed .https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860102#429860102h.r.e. for me was not the great horse everyone seemed to think imo.anyone remember fasilav .same type of horse ,having seen several of h.r.e. runners close up i'm not impressed .Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:34:03 -0500Stellar, I don't think any of the HRE's sofar have shown themselves to be definitively useless- though rest assured there will be plenty such dobbins - though obviously your trainer acquaintance is in the 'precocious sire' camp. I try not to listen ihttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860098#429860098Stellar, I don't think any of the HRE's sofar have shown themselves to be definitively useless- though rest assured there will be plenty such dobbins - though obviously your trainer acquaintance is in the 'precocious sire' camp. I try not to listen iSun, 25 Apr 2010 13:35:00 -0500Interesting point PM , did you believe the story that HRE had the world as his oyster as a three year old before he 'had' to replace GW at stud ? I would worry about him if either of these bluebloods tomorrow dont show any ability given their pedigrehttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860094#429860094Interesting point PM , did you believe the story that HRE had the world as his oyster as a three year old before he 'had' to replace GW at stud ? I would worry about him if either of these bluebloods tomorrow dont show any ability given their pedigreSat, 24 Apr 2010 18:34:45 -0500Many years ago I did a sales season with Guy Harwood. Commenting on a certain family that I felt was slightly over-rated as it was precocious and always slightly under performed over time - for the money it used to make anyway - he said that one of thttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860090#429860090Many years ago I did a sales season with Guy Harwood. Commenting on a certain family that I felt was slightly over-rated as it was precocious and always slightly under performed over time - for the money it used to make anyway - he said that one of tSat, 24 Apr 2010 13:46:41 -0500HRE was a small precocious horse who presumably will produce similar horses with little scope so if he doesnt excel this year he never will .There are loads of them being entered up at the moment and interestingly another one of his fillys out of a chttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860086#429860086HRE was a small precocious horse who presumably will produce similar horses with little scope so if he doesnt excel this year he never will .There are loads of them being entered up at the moment and interestingly another one of his fillys out of a cFri, 23 Apr 2010 16:58:41 -0500Rip van, I am with you totally on Holy Roman. Ballydoyle had him out really early himself and you can see why as when he started to work showed talent AND was tiny the temptation to crack on must have been there. However he actually improved for everhttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860082#429860082Rip van, I am with you totally on Holy Roman. Ballydoyle had him out really early himself and you can see why as when he started to work showed talent AND was tiny the temptation to crack on must have been there. However he actually improved for everFri, 23 Apr 2010 16:22:32 -0500I like the offspring of HRE but i do not like the fact that O'Brien is trying to run so many of them so early in the season your reply will be he was a very good 2 year old himself but that does not mean all his progeny will start early it's just ahttps://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860078#429860078I like the offspring of HRE but i do not like the fact that O'Brien is trying to run so many of them so early in the season your reply will be he was a very good 2 year old himself but that does not mean all his progeny will start early it's just aFri, 23 Apr 2010 13:29:54 -0500As a granddaughter of Miesque, yes.https://community.betfair.com/bloodstock__breeding/go/thread/view/94018/23855178/catherineofaragon?post_id=429860074#429860074As a granddaughter of Miesque, yes.Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:24:49 -0500