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Glenn Pollett will appear at a stewards inquiry on Thursday Glenn Pollett will appear at a stewards inquiry on Thursday. Professional punter Glenn Pollett will appear in front of NSW stewards on Thursday over comments he made regarding jockey safety in a video on www.puntersshow.com.au. Pollett – who regularly features in video content on the website – said “punters don’t care” about jockeys and implied that betting is far more important than their welfare. “People like Tye [Angland] and jockeys like that, they think we care about them,” Pollett said. “We don’t care. We want to bet. Is anyone thinking about [quadriplegic former jockey] Ray Silburn in his wheelchair out the back of Goulburn? Not me. It’s an awful thing that happened to him but life moves on. We want to bet. “Punters don’t care [about jockeys]. We want to bet. Just to let all the jockeys out there know, I don’t care.” Pollett has since apologised via a statement on www.puntersshow.com.au. “What I said was wrong and wasn’t meant in the way it came out and it is a view I don’t hold," Pollett said. “I do get a bit insane at times and suffer blackouts where I don’t really know what I’ve said and this was one of those times that it just didn't come out in the right way. “I think any rider that I have had any contact with would know the last thing I say to them in most conversations is to ‘be safe’ and naturally I don’t want to see anyone getting hurt. “Whilst I had in no way the intention of the comments I made being as harsh as they landed, they were out of line and I do apologise for that.”

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By:
Joel
When: 25 Jun 16 02:33
Hope they throw the book at him. Disgraceful.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 25 Jun 16 02:37
They have no authority over him.
By:
Joel
When: 25 Jun 16 02:44
I was talking about jockeys. I hope they throw a book at him.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 25 Jun 16 02:48
Which book?
By:
Joel
When: 25 Jun 16 02:54
War & Peace.
By:
whoopi
When: 25 Jun 16 03:14
How do the stewards propose to Jedi mind control him and make him care?

BTW I have no doubt that's his actual opinion and the apology caused his pants to combust.

Kevin, is that you Kevin?
By:
henryluca
When: 25 Jun 16 03:31
“I do get a bit insane at times and suffer blackouts where I don’t really know what I’ve said and this was one of those times that it just didn't come out in the right way

Called 'On Tilt'
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 30 Jun 16 07:48
Thursday, 30 June 2016
Stewards Report - Glenn Pollett


The Stewards today conducted an inquiry relative to comments made by Mr Glenn Pollett during the online broadcast of The Punters Show on 6 June 2016. Evidence today was taken from Mr Pollett who was assisted by Mr D Baker.

Mr Pollett pleaded guilty to the following charges.

1. Conduct prejudicial to the image &/or interests of racing –

AR 175A. Any person bound by these Rules who either within a racecourse or elsewhere in the opinion of the Committee of any Club or the Stewards has been guilty of conduct prejudicial to the image, or interests, or welfare of racing may be penalised.

2. Improper Conduct –

AR 175. The Principal Racing Authority (or the Stewards exercising powers delegated to them) may penalise;

(q) Any person who in their opinion is guilty of any misconduct, improper conduct or unseemly behaviour.

3. Making comments that were obscene, offensive and abusive on a social media channel-

AR 175. The Principal Racing Authority (or the Stewards exercising powers delegated to them) may penalise;

(qq) Any person who in their opinion, is guilty of engaging in the publishing or posting on any social media platform or channel any material, content or comment that is obscene, offensive, defamatory, racist, threatening, harassing, discriminating or abusive to any other person or entity involved in the racing industry.

The details of the charges being;

1. On the 6 June 2016 he was a presenter on The Punters Show which is a forum that discusses thoroughbred racing;
2. The Punters Show on 6 June 2016 was broadcast on the website www.puntersshow.com.au and YouTube on 6 June 2016;
3. During the said broadcast he made the following comments.

G POLLETT: …from the punter’s perspective.
M LAMBOURNE: Well punters are waiting all week for their Saturday races.
G POLLETT: Exactly.
M LAMBOURNE: They’re waiting all week!
G POLLETT: People like Tye and jockeys like that, they think we care about them, if they fall. We don’t care. We want to bet. And they should understand that.
M LAMBOURNE: We want a game to play.
G POLLETT: Absolutely. If they, do anyone thinking about Ray Silburn sitting in his wheelchair down the back of Goulburn. Not me. But it’s an awful thing what happened to him. But life goes on. We want to bet. It’s funny you know.
M LAMBOURNE: But that’s collateral damage…(in audible)… in the cross lines
G POLLETT: Harry Singh. How’s Harry, Peter V’landys “we’re going to look after Harry Singh.” Harry ****g who. Who is he? Do you know who he is?
M TAYLOR: No.
G POLLETT: He’s a jockey, used to ride all the time. He had a bad fall.
M LAMBOURNE: Yeah
G POLLETT: Indian boy, nice boy. Punters don’t care. We want to bet.
M TAYLOR: Ok.
G POLLETT: So just let the jockeys out there know. I don’t care.

4. The segment of The Punters Show – 6 June 2016 whereby he said the comments detailed particular 3 were then embedded and posted (in two parts) on the Twitter page @ryanRobertson01. Such posts being viewed approximately 50 times.

The Stewards having given consideration to the matters in respect to penalty, including Mr Pollett’s 36 years involvement in the industry without antecedence, his guilty plea entered at the first available opportunity, an apology issued by Mr Pollett on the 6 June 2016, genuine remorse displayed by Mr Pollett and his personal circumstances at the time of the offence, issued a fine totalling $10,000. Under the provisions of AR196(4) the Stewards stayed the operation of $5000 of the penalty on the provision that Mr Pollett does not breach the Rules of Racing in respect to his conduct for a period of 2 years.
Mr Pollett was advised of his rights of appeal.
By:
gardenstar
When: 30 Jun 16 13:16
Why should he pay? Why is he bound by these rules ?
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 01 Jul 16 01:22
Well that's what I thought too. But I guess Racing NSW could refuse him entry to any racecourse if they wanted. It wouldn't be discrimination because he has said these comments that do bring racing into disrepute (I don't think there's any doubt about that).

While I know that many/most serious punters don't give a fk about anything but the horses they've backed or layed, I doubt any of us really want to see harm come to anybody, unless the person is an utter grub, and there are some in this industry.

On a similar note, I've no qualms at all saying that I'd like to see Fred Nile, Tony Abbott, Cory Bernardi, Eric Abetz, George Christensen all dead - and the sooner the better. But I'm not going to do it, nor am I going to encourage anyone else to cause harm to those despicable pricks.

What Glenn said may well have been his truthful opinion, but it was silly to say it via a medium that aims to promote racing and wagering.

I guess his options include not paying the fine, but who is he really penalising by doing that? Himself I think as RNSW can do without $5K, but he couldn't stand to be exiled from racecourses. And that's what they'd do to him I think.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 01 Jul 16 01:26
What really pisses me off about this though is the "power" that Racing NSW think they can wield, meanwhile they knowingly payout on incorrect numbers after posting the wrong winner in a race at Tamworth recently - and there's the story that Glenn tells often about when he was a bookie, a bloke backed a horse with him for a decent amount, turned out he was an owner and his horse won, but he backed the wrong horse. Bloke complained to stewarts, stewards ordered Glenn to pay the guy even though he hadn't backed the winning horse. Both of those decisions are outrageous and proof that more people should take these power-hungry fascists on in court.
By:
VeryLTU
When: 01 Jul 16 02:51
wow, that's an incredible story.... poor glenn... he must have wanted to ki..ll the p....k !!!! He should have done what M. Faulk,,r (was a rails bookie in melb.) did to a close friend of mine .... made him accept a drip feed of a substantial amount and my m8 was fully paid after 6 fkn months.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 03 Jul 16 06:31
There's no doubt that Pollett is a complete braindead faarkwit but in saying that he's entitled to his opinion no matter how offensive some may consider it to be.

He should tell the stewards publicly to go fuuccck themselves and that it's a free country and forcefully remind them that it's not illegal to express such an opinion and that they do not have the power to enforce their buuullshiiit upon non licensed persons.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 03 Jul 16 07:18
Typically I completely disagree with Let's Elope.

Sure - people have the right to free speech, but it comes with responsibility and it also comes with consequences, and this is what bigots and ignorant fools completely disregard in their endeavour to express hatred.

Everybody has the freedom to murder. Yet if you commit murder, the consequences will be death to another person, and most likely be jail for you, grief to a number of others, and possibly fear to a greater number of others. So, the responsibility that comes with the right to murder is - to not murder. And the reason why is because it causes all of those terrible things I've mentioned.

So, voicing an opinion that you don't care whether jockeys suffer race falls and die is certainly a right we all have. But the consequences of that right are that it will cause disappointment and upset to jockeys and those people who know them, and if you are a person that is involved in the racing game, you should expect some of those people who are disappointed with you to do all they can to stop you from expressing that opinion to others.

If you are in any way involved in racing, then you are a participant, and as a participant you have an obligation to say and do things of benefit and not harm, otherwise you should expect consequences. So, the responsibility is to not say or do anything that may cause harm to others.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 03 Jul 16 07:44
As per usual nothing but total bs from you, I wouldn't make those comments myself personally but can understand where he's coming from.

As for jockeys and trainers most of whom would sell their own mother down the river and constantly intentionally defraud punters and owners if there's an earn in it for them, you have every right to voice an opinion that you couldn't give a flying faark about them and their welfare.

That's not my opinion but I can certainly understand where some people come from in that regard.

Without racing a significant percentage of them would be low paid street sweepers.

When and if racing ever gets serious about looking after the welfare of punters and their confidence in the sport then maybe they'll start caring about the participants, again not my opinion but can understand why many feel that way.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 03 Jul 16 08:37
You're an idiot.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 03 Jul 16 08:54
By the way this is exactly why most thinking people loathe your PC bull!

Saying you don't give a shiiit about jockeys lives is not in any way shape or form inciting hate or hate speech and while some may find it offensive, it is in no way punishable unless you're living in a police state.

To state or even imply that it is inciting hate or that it is hate speech is just too stupid for words which not surprisingly describes you to a t, you attention seeking prat.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 03 Jul 16 09:09
only an imbecile would interpret what I wrote the way you have.

Thinking person? You're a fk-wit, nothing else!

pc stands for political correctness. I detest the term actually but what it is - is actually seeking to not cause harm to others. If youy believe political correctness is bull, then you are seeking to cause harm to others - which is really fkd.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 03 Jul 16 09:11
What I'm saying is that GP has the right to say whatever he wants - and he has. that's freedom of speech.

And as a result of GP expressing what he has, his freedom of speech, Racing NSW has the right to ban him from entering any of their racecourses.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 03 Jul 16 09:15
and the reason they have that right is because those expressed comments are not in the best interests of racing.

He is a participant in several ways, as an individual punter and as a person who gains from a weekly video program this is on the subject of racing. By expressing his freedom of speech, which he is quite entitled to do, his comments which are not in the best interests of racing have the potential to influence others.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 03 Jul 16 09:16
and if all he was, was an individual punter, I would still suspect that RacingNSW would seek to ban him from entering racecourses in NSW.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 03 Jul 16 09:48
And if anyone wanted to challenge that in court they would win, they have no factual or lawful basis upon which to fine him or prevent them from entering their premises.

They have no problem letting drug dealers and known criminals on their courses but hey someone who expresses an opinion we don't like, can't have them here please, you're sounding dumber and dumber by the minute.

He hasn't wished them dead, he's just said he doesn't care about them or their lives, it is an opinion, an appalling one from a total moron and a racing scam merchant who should be arrested for impersonating a tipster(not surprisingly he's your hero or was) but nevertheless it is an opinion, we're still allowed to express opinions in this country.

His comments haven't broken a single rule of racing, to think past generations of my family sacrificed themselves for this country in order to guarantee freedoms such as these for the likes of your good self only for you to then turn around and spit on those same freedoms, makes me sick.

Why don't you do the world a favour and slither back under the rock that you came from you self loathing, narcissistic, prat.
By:
henryluca
When: 03 Jul 16 10:54
WOW...Two heavyweights going at it...and ringside seats....Happy

FK off Henry
By:
eight ball
When: 03 Jul 16 11:11
His comments haven't broken a single rule of racing
Let's
Judge8B quoting AR175(qq)

Must admit don't know the guy or the show but changing times brings changing attitudes
ARules get longer each year to appease the Animal protection society.
As is society's tolerance, but not my platform to canvas beliefs.
In finishing
Use to correlation of worldly comedians that state if your joke is made at the expense of anyone else...then it shows an inferior skill as a comedian
So relating that
If it's only an opinion would the person have the fortitude to voice his opinion IN FRONT of injured jockey's and/or their families ?
Think not.
By:
henryluca
When: 03 Jul 16 11:45
WOW///just as another ear biting incident was looming...referee ate ball called time out to remind the 2 heavyweights about political correctness,,,,, changing attitudes,,animal protection,,intolerance ....different ring canvases ...comedians and voice fortitude....

Shocked
By:
Lets Elope
When: 03 Jul 16 12:27
8b, I am well aware of that bs rule which by the way is unconstitutional and unenforceable if someone who was a non licensed person had the balls and resources to legally challenge a charge made against them in that regard, if they tried to fine me or harass  me for stating Peter know it all is a low life scumbag whose only concern is to serve his monstrous ego and that he should have been chucked out of one of his jobs years ago for bullying and harassment of a young female employee which I witnessed I would tell them to go fucck themselves.
But that's beside the point merely admitting that he doesn't care about their welfare does not in any way shape or form constitute abuse, callous indifference but not abuse.

AR 175 qq
Any person who in their opinion, is guilty of engaging in the publishing or posting on
any  social  media  platform  or  channel  any  material,  content  or  comment  that  is  obscene,
offensive, defamatory, racist, threatening, harassing, discriminating or abusive to any other
person or entity involved in the racing industry.

A steward's  or racing official's opinion is not law and would  not hold up in court, the rule of law trumps bs racing rules any day of the week and twice on Sundays and it would be nice to see someone with the resources to do so publicly expose this fact in court.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 03 Jul 16 12:40
Speak for yourself Henry, that low life narcissist TQ is the lightest of light weights and doesn't even register on my radar.

A judge would laugh this out of court as  braindead faarkwit actually says it was an awful thing to happen to Silburn, saying he doesn't care is not abusive or offensive to any thinking person.

G POLLETT: Absolutely. If they, do anyone thinking about Ray Silburn sitting in his wheelchair down the back of Goulburn. Not me. But it’s an awful thing what happened to him. But life goes on. We want to bet. It’s funny you know.

I don't care if that numbnut in the Collingwood cheer squad who wears the gold jacket that he puts on when they win, dies of some horrible disease, I don't wish that upon them or anyone for that matter, I just don't care.

Last time I checked callous indifference is not a crime.
By:
VeryLTU
When: 05 Jul 16 08:01
Laugh..... dont take it so hard hondo, no one hates you, just like discussing philosophy and trying to prove how right we are.... a self preserving human trait that depressed people don't have. Iti's healthy.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 08 Jul 16 12:31
That sort of rational concept is way beyond their comprehension Very, because their way of thinking is in itself irrational, in their mind they're right and everyone else who expresses a logical differing opinion is incorrect.

Not surprisingly then as per usual they then have to resort to personal insults.

If you want to insult me fine but then you're going to get what my opinion is of them back in spades but I never wish anyone a speedy death, those sort of statements speak volume as to their true character.

They'll shoot themselves in the foot very soon anyway by the manner in which they're carrying on here.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 08 Jul 16 22:09
My preferred pronouns are feminine ones Let's, not gender neutral.

Indeed I did stoop to personal insults with you Let's - that's because you're an intollerant, ignorant pig.

But what you and other like you fail to understand, and where people like TINS, Very and Whoopi are totally different from you (thank goodness), is that they understand, as I do, that when somebody makes a statement, everyone else has the right of reply, whether they agree or not.

Of course I think I'm right, so do you, and I accept that others have different opinions, but once they post them, they are up for critique, which means that you can attack the flaws if there are any. Attacking the flaws in somebody else's argument in not being intolerant. It is not denying that they have the right to have voiced their opinion in the first place, and it does not imply that I don't expect others to try to argue any flaws they see in my argument.

That is debate, not intolerance you foolish, intolerant, ignorant scumbag.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 08 Jul 16 22:14
If you say Horse A will win the next race (before the race has started of course), and I say that I don't agree, I think Horse B will win, how is that being intolerant of you? How is that saying that I don't expect anybody else following to disagree with my selection?

Of course I think I'm right, and of course you think you're right, but neither of us by saying what horse will win is being intolerant of the other, nor denying anybody else to post what their selection is. Even if they say Horse C will will and we both try to point out Horse C's flaws.

You're an idiot of the highest order Let's, an idiot who has never learned any of these life-lessons, and you seem to think that I'm the one here who is self-absorbed?
By:
Lets Elope
When: 09 Jul 16 05:59
I'm not wishing people dead pal for no reason, never have, never will and you're intolerant of anyone who doesn't subscribe to your supposedly "enlightened" views.

Intolerant, what rot you know zip about me or in reality anyone else on this forum, ignorance, intolerance try looking in the mirror. It's funny how people like your good self never practice what you preach but are all too ready to lecture others.

I have and always will treat people no matter who, what they are or where they're from as I would expect to be treated myself but you are and have repeatedly illustrated that your nothing but a tool of the highest order.
By:
Joel
When: 09 Jul 16 06:04
'you're'
By:
henryluca
When: 09 Jul 16 06:12
you're

Objection overruled ....correctly used originally--

you're intolerant of anyone


weight right correct weight weight is right....placings stand...

you're is correct

Stewards inquiry into ---
that's because you're an intollerant, ignorant pig.

---intolerant not intollerant

Hold all tickets
By:
Joel
When: 09 Jul 16 06:21
Laugh
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 09 Jul 16 06:47
he is a pig, but I'm amazed that he resists using feminine pronouns for me.
By:
spyvspy27
When: 09 Jul 16 07:45
have repeatedly illustrated that your nothing but a tool of the highest order.

Henry I think Joel was referring to the above your ffs
By:
henryluca
When: 09 Jul 16 07:52
Time for Spec Savers  Wink
By:
spyvspy27
When: 09 Jul 16 07:56
I had mine on ffs
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