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By:
whoopi
When: 22 Apr 16 04:03
We think that the way to make all modern team sports more interesting is to impose a mandatory 25% body fat level for all players.

We want to eliminate the robots.

It's an act of genius.

We are bringing back da dredge.
By:
whoopi
When: 22 Apr 16 06:20
We are struggling to understand why journalists who encourage criminal acts are being feted as returning heroes.

Perhaps we have missed something while bringing back da dredge.
By:
whoopi
When: 22 Apr 16 07:50
We have developed our fat team sports idea.

All players would have a blood alcohol reading of 0.10 or over.

Fat  drunk people playing football, now that's a sporting idea.

Kevin, is that you Kevin?
By:
whoopi
When: 22 Apr 16 09:10
Prince was bringing back da dredge.

Even uncool hairy blokes like us enjoyed his music.
By:
whoopi
When: 22 Apr 16 09:27
We recall an interview with Prince in which he lamented never having recorded a cover version of the classic song Xemx (pronounced Shemsh for the few people who aren't fluent in Malti).

He also exclusively revealed that his favourite hobby was bucket line dredging with Monica and Kevin.
By:
whoopi
When: 22 Apr 16 12:41
Ladies and gentlemen we are a having a red light special on timpana in our wog foods section of the store.

Monica Monica
By:
whoopi
When: 22 Apr 16 23:47
Our advice is to stay away from the minestra.

Monica Monica
By:
whoopi
When: 23 Apr 16 03:41
Our opinion on that matter is summarised below:

Second time you moved me it's time for us to Boom Boom.

Paul Lekakis is bringing back da dredge.
By:
whoopi
When: 23 Apr 16 06:39
We believe that horses are actually a large breed of dog, and we have the hypertrophic levels to prove it.

Monica Monica
By:
whoopi
When: 23 Apr 16 10:21
Hey Ho Jason Taylor must go.

He isn't bringing back da dredge.
By:
whoopi
When: 25 Apr 16 04:55
We know that you are all plotting against us.

Money for hair. Money for hair.

We are bringing back da dredge
By:
whoopi
When: 25 Apr 16 05:01
We are of the opinion that if we drizzle olive oil over a salad it comes out of the bottle in a stream.
Yet if it drizzles rain there is no steady stream.

The authorities in charge of this matter need to wake up to themselves.

Monica Monica
By:
whoopi
When: 26 Apr 16 01:24
We have discussed with ourselves our belief that one brewed coffee is the equivalent of 4 instant coffees.
We have no empirical evidence, but on a forum littered with theories based on alien prognostications it would be inappropriate if we did.

Brewed coffee is bringing back da dredge.
By:
henryluca
When: 26 Apr 16 06:12
on a forum littered with theories based on alien prognostications it would be inappropriate if we did.

Dont forget those with hissy fit tendencies when confronted by one piece swimsuits  Wink ..

One piece swim suits are bringing back the dredge Wink
By:
henryluca
When: 26 Apr 16 06:13
We just rang ourselves 3 times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b7BpxZhk-0

Laugh
By:
Joel
When: 26 Apr 16 06:22
Why doesn't the dredge bring back one piece swim suits?
By:
henryluca
When: 26 Apr 16 06:26
each time the dredge tried it offended a binary person and the site was pulled.....so no more pulling on the forum  Wink
By:
henryluca
When: 26 Apr 16 06:32
Why doesn't the dredge bring back one piece swim suits?

do you mean like this;

By:
whoopi
When: 26 Apr 16 06:47
We believe that history does not repeat itself or it would be known as the present.

Kevin, is that you Kevin?
By:
henryluca
When: 26 Apr 16 22:44
t one brewed coffee is the equivalent of 4 instant coffee


By:
whoopi
When: 27 Apr 16 01:23
We have watched the ad. that encourages respect for women.

We don't understand why a dad telling his boy "Don't throw like a girl" is disrespectful.

Surely letting boys know that girls are different is a good thing for them to know, and factually girls do in the main throw differently to boys. Why is the truth bad?

We are bringing back da respectful dredge.
By:
henryluca
When: 27 Apr 16 05:48
We don't understand why a dad telling his boy "Don't throw like a girl" is disrespectful.

apparently one piece swim  suits is offensive to some....



Surely letting boys know that girls are different is a good thing for them to know, and factually girls do in the main throw differently to boys. Why is the truth bad?

AGREED+!

minority groups have way too much say imo

minority groups are affecting the dredge
By:
henryluca
When: 27 Apr 16 06:05
We believe that history does not repeat itself or it would be known as the present


By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 27 Apr 16 07:20
Guinea (coin)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Guineas" redirects here. For other uses, see Guinea (disambiguation).
The guinea is a coin of approximately one quarter ounce of gold that was minted in the Kingdom of England and later in the Kingdom of Great Britain and the United Kingdom between 1663 and 1814.[1] It was the first English machine-struck gold coin, originally worth one pound sterling,[1] equal to twenty shillings, but rises in the price of gold relative to silver caused the value of the guinea to increase, at times to as high as thirty shillings. From 1717 to 1816, its value was officially fixed at twenty-one shillings. Then, Great Britain adopted the gold standard and guinea became a colloquial or specialised term.
The name came from the Guinea region in West Africa, where much of the gold used to make the coins originated.[2] Although no longer circulated, the term guinea survives in some circles, notably horse racing,[1] and in the sale of rams to mean an amount of one pound and one shilling (21 shillings) or one pound and five pence in decimalised currency. The name also forms the basis for the Arabic word for the Egyptian pound الجنيه el-Genēh / el-Geni, as a sum of 100 qirsh (one pound) was worth approximately 21 shillings at the end of the 19th century.
Contents
    1 Origin
    2 Seventeenth century
    3 Eighteenth century
        3.1 Queen Anne
        3.2 George I
        3.3 George II
        3.4 George III
    4 Nineteenth century
        4.1 Replacement by the pound
    5 Gallery
    6 See also
    7 References
    8 External links
Origin
The first guinea was produced on 6 February 1663; a proclamation of 27 March 1663 made the coins legal currency. One troy pound of 11/12 fine gold (22 carat or 0.9167 pure by weight) would make 44½ guineas,[3] each thus theoretically weighing 129.438 grains (or 8.385 grams).
The denomination was originally worth one pound, or twenty shillings, but an increase in the price of gold during the reign of King Charles II led to the market trading it at a premium. The price of gold continued to increase, especially in times of trouble, and by the 1680s, the coin was worth 22 shillings. Indeed, in his diary entries for 13 June 1667, Samuel Pepys records that the price was 24 to 25 shillings.[4]
The diameter of the coin was 1 inch (just over 25 mm) throughout Charles II's reign, and the average gold purity (from an assay done in 1773 of samples of the coins produced during the preceding year) was 0.9100. "Guinea" was not an official name for the coin, but much of the gold used to produce the early coins came from Guinea in Africa.
The coin was produced each year between 1663 and 1684, with the elephant appearing on some coins each year from 1663 to 1665 and 1668, and the elephant and castle on some coins from 1674 onward. The elephant, with or without the castle, symbolises the Royal African Company (founded in 1660), whose activities on the Guinea Coast of Africa resulted in the importation of much gold into England.[5]
Seventeenth century
Charles II
The obverse and reverse of this coin were designed by John Roettier (1631–c.1700). The obverse showed a fine right-facing bust of the king wearing a laurel wreath (amended several times during the reign), surrounded by the legend CAROLVS II DEI GRATIA ("Charles II by the grace of God"), while the reverse showed four crowned cruciform shields bearing the arms of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland, between which were four sceptres, and in the centre were four interlinked "C"s, surrounded by the inscription MAG BR FRA ET HIB REX date ("Of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King"). The edge was milled to deter clipping or filing, and to distinguish it from the silver half-crown which had edge lettering. Until 1669 the milling was perpendicular to the edge, giving vertical grooves, while from 1670 the milling was diagonal to the edge.
James II, with elephant and castle under the bust, 1686
John Roettier continued to design the dies for this denomination in the reign of King James II. In this reign, the coins weighed 8.5 g with a diameter of 25–26 mm, and were minted in all years between 1685 and 1688, with an average gold purity of 0.9094. Coins of each year were issued both with and without the elephant and castle mark. The king's head faces left in this reign, and is surrounded by the inscription IACOBUS II DEI GRATIA ("James II by the grace of God"), while the reverse is the same as in Charles II's reign except for omitting the interlinked "C"s in the centre of the coin. The edge of the coins are milled diagonally.
William and Mary
With the removal of James II in the Glorious Revolution of 1688, his daughter Mary, and her husband Prince William of Orange ruled jointly by agreement as co-monarchs. Their heads appear conjoined on the guinea piece in Roman style, with William's head uppermost, with the legend GVLIELMVS ET MARIA DEI GRATIA. In a departure from the previous reigns, the reverse featured a totally new design of a large crowned shield which bore the arms of England and France in the first and fourth quarters, of Scotland in the second quarter, and of Ireland in the third quarter, the whole ensemble having a small shield in the centre bearing the rampant lion of Nassau; the legend on the obverse read MAG BR FR ET HIB REX ET REGINA date (Of "Magna Britannia" Great Britain, "Francia" France and "Hibernia" Ireland King and Queen). By the early part of this reign the value of the guinea had increased to nearly thirty shillings. The guineas of this reign weighed 8.5 grams, were 25–26 mm in diameter, and were the work of James and Norbert Roettier and were produced in all years between 1689 and 1694 both with and without the elephant and castle; in 1692 and 1693 the mark of the elephant alone was also used.
Following the death of Queen Mary from smallpox in 1694, William continued to reign as William III. The guinea coin was produced in all years from 1695 to 1701, both with and without the elephant and castle, the design probably being the work of Johann Crocker, also known as John Croker, since James Roettier had died in 1698 and his brother Norbert had moved to France in 1695.
The coins of William III's reign weighed 8.4 g with an average gold purity of 0.9123. The diameter was 25–26 mm until 1700 and 26–27 mm in 1701. William's head faces right on his coins, with the legend GVLIELMVS III DEI GRATIA, while the reverse design of William and Mary's reign was judged to be unsuccessful, so the design reverted to that used by Charles II and James II, but with a small shield with the lion of Nassau in the centre, with the legend MAG BR FRA ET HIB REX date. The coin had a diagonal milled edge.
Eighteenth century
Queen Anne
The reign of Queen Anne (1702–14) produced guineas in all years between 1702 and 1714 except for 1704. The 1703 guinea bears the word VIGO under the Queen's bust, to commemorate the origin of the gold taken from the Spanish ships at the Battle of Vigo Bay.
With the Acts of Union 1707 creating a unified Kingdom of Great Britain through the union of the Parliament of Scotland with the Parliament of England, the design of the reverse of the first truly British guinea was changed. Until the Union, the cruciform shields on the reverse showed the arms of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland in order, separated by sceptres and with a central rose, and the legend MAG BRI FR ET HIB REG date ("Of Great Britain, France, and Ireland Queen"). With the Act of Union, the English and Scottish arms appear conjoined on one shield, with the left half being the English arms and the right half being the Scottish arms, and the order of arms appearing on the shields becomes England and Scotland, France, England and Scotland, Ireland. The elephant and castle can appear on the coins of 1708 and 1709. The centre of the reverse design shows the Star of the Order of the Garter.
The coins weighed 8.3 g, were 25 mm in diameter, and had a gold purity of 0.9134. The edge of the coin is milled diagonally. In 1717, Great Britain adopted the gold standard, at a rate of one guinea to 129.438 grains (8.38 g) of crown gold, which was 22 carat gold.[6][7]
The dies for all guineas of Queen Anne and King George I were engraved by John Croker, an immigrant originally from Dresden in the Duchy of Saxony.[8]
George I
George I: 1/4 guinea (1718)
King George I's guinea coins were struck in all years between 1714 and 1727, with the elephant and castle sometimes appearing in 1721, 1722, and 1726. His guineas are notable for using five different portraits of the king, and the 1714 coin is notable for declaring him to be Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire. The coins weighed 8.3–8.4 grams, were 25–26 millimetres in diameter, and the average gold purity was 0.9135.
The 1714 obverse shows the right-facing portrait of the king with the legend GEORGIVS D G MAG BR FR ET HIB REX F D ("George, by the grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Hibernia King, Fidei Defensor"), while the later coins bear the legend GEORGIVS D G M BR FR ET HIB REX F D. The reverse follows the same general design as before, except the order of the shields is England and Scotland, France, Ireland, and Hanover, with the legend in 1714 BRVN ET LVN DVX S R I A TH ET PR EL 1714 ("Duke of Brunswick and Lueneburg, Arch-Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire"), and in other years BRVN ET L DVX S R I A TH ET EL date ("Duke of Brunswick and Lueneburg, Arch-Treasurer and Elector of the Holy Roman Empire"). The edge of the coin is milled diagonally.
The value of the guinea had fluctuated over the years from 20 to 30 shillings and back down to 21 shillings and sixpence by the start of George's reign. A royal proclamation of December 1717 fixed the value of the guinea at 21shillings.
George II
George II
King George II's guinea pieces are a complex issue, with eight obverses and five reverses used through the 33 years of the reign. The coins were produced in all years of the reign except 1742, 1744, 1754, and 1757. The coins weighed 8.3–8.4 g, and were 25–26 mm in diameter except for some of the 1727 coins which were 24–25 mm. The average gold purity was 0.9140. Some coins issued between 1729 and 1739 carry the mark EIC under the king's head, to indicate the gold was provided by the East India Company, while some 1745 coins carry the mark LIMA to indicate the gold came from Admiral George Anson's round-the-world voyage. In the early part of the reign the edge of the coin was milled diagonally, but from 1739 following the activities of a particularly bold gang of guinea filers for whom a reward was posted, the milling was changed to produce the shape of a chevron or arrow-head. In 1732 the old hammered gold coinage was demonetised, and it is thought that some of the old coins were melted down to create more guineas.
The obverse has a left-facing bust of the king with the legend GEORGIVS II DEI GRATIA (GEORGIUS II DEI GRATIA between 1739 and 1743), while the reverse features a single large crowned shield with the quarters containing the arms of England+Scotland, France, Hanover, and Ireland, and the legend M B F ET H REX F D B ET L D S R I A T ET E ("King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lueneburg, Arch-Treasurer and Elector").
Unlike the two-guinea and five-guinea coins, production of the guinea continued through much of the long reign of King George III.
George III
George III, 1775 guinea
George III, spade guinea, 1795
The guineas of King George III weighed 8.4 g and were 24 mm in diameter, with an average gold purity (at the time of the 1773 assay) of 0.9146 (meaning it contained 7.7 g of gold). They were issued with six different obverses and three reverses in 1761, 1763–79, 1781–99, and 1813. All the obverses show right-facing busts of the king with the legend GEORGIVS III DEI GRATIA with different portraits of the king. The reverse of guineas issued between 1761 and 1786 show a crowned shield bearing the arms of England+Scotland, France, Ireland and Hanover, with the legend M B F ET H REX F D B ET L D S R I A T ET E date ("King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lüneburg, Arch-Treasurer and Elector of the Holy Roman Empire"). In 1787 a new design of reverse featuring a spade-shaped shield was introduced, with the same legend; this has become known as the spade guinea.
In 1774 almost 20 million worn guineas of King William III and Queen Anne were melted down and recoined as guineas and half-guineas.
Towards the end of the century gold began to become scarce and rise in value. The French Revolution and the subsequent French Revolutionary Wars had drained gold reserves and people started hoarding coins. Parliament passed a law making banknotes legal tender in any amount, and in 1799 the production of guineas was halted, although half- and third-guineas continued to be struck. Following the Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland in 1800, the king's titles changed, and an Order in Council of 5 November 1800 directed the Master of the Mint to prepare a new coinage, but although designs were prepared, the production of guineas was not authorised.
Nineteenth century
Half guinea – 1808
In 1813 it was necessary to strike 80,000 guineas to pay the Duke of Wellington's army in the Pyrenees, as the local people would accept only gold in payment. This issue has become known as the Military Guinea. At this time, gold was still scarce and the guinea was trading on the open market for 27 shillings in paper money, so the coining of this issue for the army's special needs was a poor deal for the government, and this was the last issue of guineas to be minted. The reverse of the military guinea is a unique design, showing a crowned shield within a Garter, with HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE on the Garter, and BRITANNIARUM REX FIDEI DEFENSOR ("King of the British, Defender of the Faith") around the edge, and "1813" between the edge inscription and the garter.
Replacement by the pound
In the Great Recoinage of 1816, the guinea was replaced as the major unit of currency by the pound and in coinage with a sovereign.
Even after the coin ceased to circulate, the name guinea was long used to indicate the amount of 21 shillings (£1.05 in decimalised currency). The guinea had an aristocratic overtone; professional fees and payment for land, horses, art, bespoke tailoring, furniture and other luxury items were often quoted in guineas until a couple of years after decimalisation in 1971.[9] It was similarly used in Australia until that country went to decimal currency in 1966.
It is still quoted in the pricing and sale of livestock at auction and racehorses, where the purchaser will pay in guineas but the seller will receive payment in an equal number of pounds. The difference (5p in each guinea) is traditionally the auctioneer's commission. Many major horse races in Great Britain, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand and Australia bear names ending in "1,000 Guineas" or "2,000 Guineas", even though the nominal values of their purses today are much higher than the £1,050 or £2,100 suggested by their names.
Gallery
    Charles II
    James II
    William and Mary
    George I (quarter guinea)
    George II (two guinea)
    George II (two guinea)
    George II
    George II (half guinea)
    George III
    George III, "Spade" issue, 1795
    George III, "Spade" issue, 1798
    George III (half guinea)
    George III (half guinea)
    George III (third guinea)
See also
    Egyptian pound, the native name of which is derived from the guinea, to which it was approximately equal in value in the late 19th century.
References
Roberts, Chris (2006). Heavy Words Lightly Thrown: The Reason Behind Rhyme. Thorndike Press. ISBN 0-7862-8517-6.
Chambers, Robert (1885). Domestic Annals of Scotland. Edinburgh : W & R Chambers. p. 259.
H. G. Stride, "The GOLD Coinage of Charles II", in the British Numismatic Journal, vol.28 (1955), see http://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital%20BNJ/pdfs/1955_BNJ_28_28.pdf
Wikisource:Diary of Samuel Pepys/1667/June
Margolin, Sam (2010). "Guineas". In Rice, Kym S.; Katz-Hyman, Martha B. World of a Slave: Encyclopedia of the Material Life of Slaves in the United States. ABC-CLIO. p. 259. ISBN 9780313349430. Retrieved 2015-02-08. "The coins were named because much of the gold used to produce them came from the Gold or 'Guinea' Coast of West Africa and was provided by the Royal African Company, which had been granted a monopoly of the Africa trade from 1672 until 1698. Coins produced from African gold bore the company's distinctive emblem below the monarch's head: an elephant or elephant and a castellated howdah, an ornate canopied seat used for riding on elephants and camels."
Kindleberger, Charles P. (1993). A financial history of western Europe. Oxford: Oxford University Press. pp. 60–63. ISBN 0-19-507738-5. OCLC 26258644.
Newton, Isaac, Treasury Papers, vol. ccviii. 43, Mint Office, 21 Sept. 1717
Warwick William Wroth, 'Croker, John (1670-1741)' in Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, vol. 13
    Flood, John A. (1983). Barristers' Clerks: Middlemen of the Law (PDF). Manchester University Press. ISBN 0-7190-0928-6. Retrieved 2009-03-01.
External links
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    British Coins
    British gold coins
    Guinea Archive - A gallery of Guinea pictures, varieties and values.
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By:
whoopi
When: 27 Apr 16 07:26
The Guinea is bringing back da dredge.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 27 Apr 16 07:59
Whoopi, apparently the Greens have just made a promise to bring back da dredge if they win the election.
By:
whoopi
When: 27 Apr 16 08:52
They have my vote as well as Monica Monica and is that you Kevin.
By:
whoopi
When: 27 Apr 16 09:49
The bark is an adaptation by dogs in order to communicate with humans.

Wolves don't bark.

Dogs are bringing back da dredge
By:
Joel
When: 27 Apr 16 09:53
It should be legal for people to shoot their neighbours barking dogs.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 27 Apr 16 12:17
Joel, I used to lay in bed as a kid and hear a dog barking somewhere in the neighbourhood. I'd think, that dog barking (in the far SE suburbs of Sydney) could actually start another dog barking in Blacktowm, in the far NW suburbs, by setting off a chain of dogs all barking at the one before.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 27 Apr 16 12:18
So, I wonder if a dog in Portugal could set another dog barking in Moscow?
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 27 Apr 16 12:19
But Maltese dogs, now there's an issue, pretty hard for a non-Maltese dog to get another Maltese dog to bark. Unless it was on holidays in Malta of course.
By:
HondoLomboHanoverLobell
When: 27 Apr 16 12:20
Whoopi, if a dog is born and bred in one country, is it then referred to as being of that nationality? Or are dogs just international?
By:
henryluca
When: 27 Apr 16 22:00
Joel 26 Apr 16 06:22 Joined: 14 Feb 04 | Topic/replies: 28,205 | Blogger: Joel's blog

Why doesn't the dredge bring back one piece swim suits?


+Do you mean like this one+!


By:
whoopi
When: 27 Apr 16 22:48
We believe that the dogs are now actively plotting against Joel.

We have intercepted psychic chatter.

Kevin, is that you Kevin?
By:
whoopi
When: 27 Apr 16 23:02
Was there dog p00 on your lawn this morning Joel?

Was the p00p silent?

It puts the lotion on it's skin.

Monica Monica
By:
henryluca
When: 27 Apr 16 23:06
if we drizzle olive oil over a salad it comes out of the bottle in a stream.


By:
whoopi
When: 27 Apr 16 23:32
The dogs have asked us to release the following:

London: A four-year-old white Labrador called Dayko has been hailed as a hero after rescuing seven people from the aftermath of the Ecuador earthquake – before dying of exhaustion.

Dayko, a rescue dog for the Ibarra fire service, died on Friday, having spent the previous days searching for survivors in the rubble left by the 7.8-magnitude earthquake which hit Ecuador on April 16.

According to a post on the Ibarra fire service's Facebook page the cause of death was "massive coronary myocardial infarction and acute respiratory failure". He had been working as a rescue dog for 3½ years.

The dogs have exclusively revealed to us that their retribution for this hero dogs death, for which they blame Joel, will be dedicated to Dayko.


Dayko was bringing back da dredge.
By:
whoopi
When: 28 Apr 16 05:14
We are watching Balmain play Souths in 1989.

We grieve for Rugby League, and those who will never know the way the game was played in the past.

That was a game of footy, not the current robot wars.

1989 is bringing back da dredge
By:
whoopi
When: 28 Apr 16 06:05
Now we are watching the 19994 Tigers featuring John "I wrote about fixing multiple trot races" Elias.
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