Australian
It's now or never for in-play betting in Australia
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What a intolerable arse-hat that man is.
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thanks for that link, they belong together V'Landys is responsible for the decline in turnover and field sizes in nsw but gets a contract extension, gets his fat head out there any chance he gets.
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Andrew Twaits
"This interview is just breathtaking. Played it for the whole family at dinner." https://twitter.com/ajtwaits/status/696251142800408576 |
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The anti in-play brigade are cranking up their efforts to prevent any changes being made...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/gambling-giants-step-up-lobbying-to-bring-down-inplay-betting/news-story/4e0569960fd702adb432eb2118f8ebcb |
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what's your gut feel Charkitz ? cannot see any votes in relaxing the rules.
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Think you're right Trotlover, it's doubtful the in-play legislation will change, too many big guns in the ears of the politicians asking (or desperately begging) for the restrictions not to be lifted. And the media continue to put a negative slant on it, which makes it much harder for the polis to convince your average Joe Blow of the merits of lifting it.
Having said that, there's still a much better chance now than at any time in the last 10 years or so. It'll be interesting to see what else comes out of the review too, we should know by end of this month |
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Good to see there's an article today focusing on the other side of the argument...
http://www.smh.com.au/business/sportsbet-fights-back-in-battle-for-inplay-betting-20160208-gmoiq6.html |
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And this is what I mean by the media putting a negative slant on it...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/editorials/inplay-betting-could-erode-confidence-in-sport/news-story/595bb88ef3fc374ac56cddcb04fedc49 Wow at this bit At the most basic level, for spectators barracking for their preferred players or teams, the whiff of corruption would destroy confidence in football, cricket, basketball, tennis and other popular sports Yet another article suggesting that liberalising in-play would lead to corruption, without actually explaining how |
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A bit more than another article, an editorial, looks like the The Australian has made up its mind.
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Met a fella from a corp at a superbowl party yesterday and asked him what the gut feel was, said they were fairly confident, but by no means a done deal.
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Looking likely in play betting won't be passed. What an absolute f%*kn joke this whole country is. Get in play betting going. Did I hear correctly that "racing I play betting" is allowed be caused under the act, racing wasn't considered a sport.
Surely the only change now to the law will be that WH's in play method will be banned. |
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At this stage they're only saying no to online in-play betting up until the election Ange. It's a temporary decision.
Which leaves the door open for making a permanent decision to allow online in-play betting post election. They know they'd lose votes come the election if they make an announcement before then. Surely if they weren't going to make any changes to the in-play legislation, they'd just make that announcement now... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/live-sports-betting-ban-until-federal-election/news-story/70a92b4407c2afdfe9932ed01e45a83d http://calvinayre.com/2016/03/17/business/australia-govt-stall-online-in-play-betting-decision-after-election/ |
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Australia does have in-play betting at the moment, just that it's stacked in favour of the Aus bookies.
In any case its a long bow being drawn to apply any out-of-date law to in-play sports betting imo. |
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Most bookies have too much money tied up in advertisements too have to adjust to the any in-play changes.
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On the other hand, anyone winning consistently would probably have their bets limited anyway, so I dont know what their problem would be.
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Maybe its more to do with out of touch politicians or maybe their a some politicians who are worried that poker machine tax revenue might take a hit.
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so does anyone think in-play betting on the races may stop ? hope not its a good little earn for me, nothing huge but something.
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Australia is the only country in the world that allows online sports betting, in-play sports betting, but not online in-play sports betting. Stupid, right? What's the difference between making a phone call, standing at a TAB machine, or sitting at home on your computer? New Zealand has it, why can't we?
The arguments against legalising it are that it will increase the number of problem gamblers, that it will allow problem gamblers to lose more money more quickly, and that some funds may be diverted away from the pokies and racing industry. And these are all moot points - the number of new problem gamblers will be negligible as they're all already gambling through the many mediums available, problem gamblers already lose as much as they can so any change to total losses would be negligible, and yes there would be a shifting of profits away from historic operators but that is simply indicative of changing times and operators that have failed to keep up. The arguments for legalising it are that it would increase the productivity and efficiency of winning punters and the industry in general. Unfortunately given that winning punters are very few and far between, there are no major advocates who take heed of their concerns, so it is left up to the operators to try and convince politicians to bring about change, and with all the negative stigma associated with the industry, it's an uphill battle. When the legislation was passed in 2001, online betting wasn't a very big thing, I've been told that the main purpose of the legislation was to prevent online casinos and poker machines from being able to operate in Australia, but that the bill was worded to be as widely encompassing as possible, including all sports and betting games (horse racing and lottery excepted). Unfortunately the average layman/politician has no idea about the difference between informed and uninformed betting, everything gets lumped together - it's all fixed and corrupt and bad. But given the ease of access punters have to bookies all around the world, and with the government being rather powerless to monitor or control this, it would be extremely imprudent on their part not to give punters what they want, via a medium they can control and monitor and collect tax from. Here's to hoping logic can win out. |
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Vlandys 150% right. Offshore bookmakers is a bigger issue. Its crucial prize money is protected.
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http://www.smh.com.au/business/government-bans-inplay-betting-on-sports-dealing-blow-to-tom-waterhouse-20160428-goh0wp.html
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/online-inplay-betting-will-stay-illegal-loopholes-to-be-closed-says-coalition-20160428-goh930.html All I take out of this is the following two sentences... "The government does not intend to further expand the online betting market in Australia by legalising online in-play betting," Social Services Minister Alan Tudge said. "We think there's enough problems with gambling already, before giving people the ability to bet on every moment of every sport across Australia from your living room." So that's that then, unless the government suddenly change their tune post election (which is still a small possibility). I promise to not start another Oz in-play betting thread, shoulda known better!!    |
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I know it sounds crazy Charkitz,even paranoid,but I can't help wondering if you're somehow to blame.
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Lobby the Liberal Democrats. They are campaigning this election to end the nanny state.
Here is their current policy on gambling :- http://ldp.org.au/policy/gambling/ You never know, if they end up with few senate seats they might be able to weigh in on this issue. |
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More like a definition of head-in-the-sand
The Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) neither supports nor opposes gambling The LDP does not consider problem gambling After those eyebrow raisers,the policy does have some kind of credence. Focusing on the 'Rake %'and House Edge is important but not a single mention of the Offshore illegal Gambling Companies(Locust) |
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eight ball - The policy clearly needs some work, but if you look at the overall LDP philosophy and policy of bringing an end to the "nanny state" you will see that it aligns with punters desire to be treated like adults in a open market with less (stupid) regulation.
Maybe if people lobbied them and helped them refine their policy then some headway could be made.....or you could just sh1t on my suggestion instead. Whatever pleases you. |