Time to start giving these harness drivers life

Modern Mary does nothing but drift and wins at Echuca. If it were the other way around certain people on here would have claimed a rort!

Just goes to show that the vast majority of market shifts are no more than corrections, this assertion certain people have that is MUST mean something is going on shows very limited knowledge of the sport and betting in general. A lot of people try to make more of market movers than they should, and most who do actually do very little proper form analysis themselves. It is generally the lazy approach imo

By the way very good drive by Rita Burnett

And thankfully -- not everything is as fixed up as some participants like to claim.
Even intended rorts can come unstuck for the best of them !!!   :-)

Sam Hewitt.  Actually all of the Hewitt's.  Must be inbred.  WTF was he doing on Ima Gucci Girl?  Ruined the race

for who, the favourite? can't just present it to the turnbulls

go awesome belmer

oh thats right the turnbulls won anyway

Happy you backed the winner Craig but when you hold the front and your horse runs 38 metres last it is safe to say that you should of handed up!  They are all absolutely hopeless.

Should Amanda Turnbull be allowed to drive again?

Could have easily killed a horse and even a driver then. Unbelievable. They won't do anything until lives are lost I am guessing

I am guessing you were on The Night Pearl too??  If there is one horse I actually hate it is Veracity Red.  Just a total cat and you never know what they will do with it.  It cannot get in a can of dog food soon enough

they knew there.  Mcarthy runner goes for a bath.  Feel sorry for those who took the 1.35 @ tab at one point

No I wasn't on LRO, but I could not believe what she did to it. Not watched replay, were my eyes deceiving me or was it as bad as I thought?

they got tight but the horse did react pretty badly.  it is probably borderline.

Ok fair enough, will be interested to see it again I thought she had taken his legs right out

yes leftrightout i was surprised ima gucci girl held and without a change of tactics announcement i too would have blown up 2 if it went against me

re mahoghany stride - yes it was fairly ordinary but it's trial was on trots tv and it was inconclusive if it was a star or not

mister jay cee has won a $15000 race previously and El Fuego is handy too so anyone taking 1.35 possibly cant complain too much

no true but the poor bloke in the tab who sees a McCarthy thing go off on fixed probably doesn't know better.  You're right the other two are handy.  Still wondering how the Tab had Bye Bye Sir odds on for the majority of betting.

Garnet River gubbed at 1.01 (or very close to)  - if you were ever going to pick a candidate GR would be the one

I think it is only the 2nd or 3rd time I have ever backed him.  Needless to say never again.  Is there a therapy group I can attend?

I think I just saw the funniest thing I have ever witnessed at Goulburn ............... Jimmy Brown you should be on comedy channel

Greg Bennett...free to drive

where did you see this BT ?

A tweet from his legal team....


Congrats! Champ harness driver Greg Bennett. Jury returns "Not Guilty!" Tears all round.

wonder how the apprentince and his master are going know.

now ffs

last race at newcastle on friday night.  Red samurai @ stud.  Surely this is a joke.  $850 service fee.  Honestly I do not know what to say.  Ross Adams seek help immediately

Polluting the industry with that stallion

The 'Cocaine King' lol.

The 'Cocaine King' lol.

fair dinkum J Tapp how much have his horses improved

Whata Escape fights on like a tiger tonight after a top win last start - previously heartless

Even Bye Bye Sir altho well driven jumped out of the ground tonight plus another winner in That's Fire Power

and Peter Rixon why doesn't he drive more?

Some maybe as good but no one in NSW is better in my view

Craig you usually speak sense but I think you are getting a little carried away with Peter Rixon.  Just ok, definitely not in the top bracket.  In comparison to his wife he is a genius.  She is hopeless.

How ironic this thread with old GB getting off

I think GB was the best of a bad bunch, not comparable to other states top drivers

Leftrightout I am working from a small sample I admit but been very happy with his drives when I have been on


Best drive I've seen lately Josh Willick on Miss Fantastic - Worst G Fitzpatrick on One More Slim the following week


Both centred around Presidential Holme with Josh knowing it was limited so waiting waiting on Miss Fantastic

The next week G Fitzpatrick seemed to have no idea how limited it was and wasted all OMS's energy attacking Presidential leaving it a sitting shot for The ArtofAttitude

not saying G Fitzpatrick is not a good driver but in my opinion he cost that one a win that night

Gavin Fitzpatrick is just moderate.

ITS OFFICIAL.  THE WORST DRIVE OF THE YEAR ***** GLENN HAYWARD*******

Congats mate.  You did not ease off the fence when you had 2 chances to.  You drove your horse up the ar$e of the leader and made it break and you still got beat a half length getting out with 50m to go.  Well done.  Honestly that was as bad as you will see

and yes Josh Willick is a jet.  When he is on his best behaviour

Lefty
Don't s'ppose Mr Hayward is one of those breeder/owner/trainer/driver stereotypes who has the family pet going around ?

I suggest so.  never see him drive.  honestly it was painful.  the horse in the 1/1 was off the bit 1000m out but he refused to ease off the fence down the back.  look my fault for backing him but still he really should get 8 weeks.  but he won't.  I hope his float breaks down on the way home tonight. 

if anyone wants to have a laugh, check out the way girardi gives away 3rd place in the 8th at Globe Derby tonight (he's on #7)

Exactly Clint. The worst of all time maybe?

another beauty from egerton-green on wrongly accused in the 6th at gloucester.

rare finish to the 9th at gloucester, 7 horses within a metre

Giradi's drive was a shocker. Nearly backed it the place at fixed odds. Luckily I kept thinking he may not want to stay three the fence from the start.

could not speak more highly of lauren panella's drive on #8 in the 5th at maitland

none of their last three actually were driven by Lauren although she was listed to drive

all tho beaten at $1.90, $3.10 & $1.30 respectively

John Justice on Retained in the Weddeburn Cup yesterday.  Horse has run 1 placing in the last year and won 1 race in the last 2 years but John wants to hold the death from one of the best horses in the race.

Would have been appropriate two and a half years ago but it seems nobody has yet noticed the horse has lost a leg since then.

Leader should have handed up to John Khan

have not seen the losing maitland drives by mr tritton but i bet they go a lot better when his girlfriend hops back on them and they are feeling well nourished.

Triton is just a good trainer, but like the rest of the good trainers this knowledge appeared overnight

Macy Supreme does not go quite as good without Jackson's magic potion.

an after time but it was a lovely place lay for me speculating similarly

it wasnt actually one of his best either

if the horse was going well it would of got to the breeze easily.  just goes to show what the good stuff does.

shane butcher ought to be given some time off for his blaze on board heaven's delight in the 8th at gloucester

"When questioned regarding the performance of MACY SUPREME NZ driver B Fitzpatrick explained that the mare won a trial recently at Menangle albeit in slow time. He added that he believes MACY SUPREME NZ is better suited when leading and has not at this stage displayed similar form as indicated by previous runs for previous stables."

I wonder why!!!!

the way harper gifted butcher the trail in the 7th at gloucester, he's either a pillock or on the take

harper at it again, the guy is an absolute nonce

his old man Lindsay was a brilliant driver,but got 10 years ..warned off,his uncle Greg could get horse to improve as well..

kyles dad....

Former pacing champion Lindsay Harper has been indefinitely warned off racetracks worldwide just days before his nine-year disqualification was due to end.

Racing and Wagering WA's integrity assurance committee yesterday issued Mr Harper, 54, who was banned in 2005 for conduct detrimental to the harness industry, with the warning-off notice.

His disqualification was due to end tomorrow.

RWWA general manager of racing integrity Denis Boravica said there were no new circumstances that led to the warning-off notice.

"It was just on the basis of past history," Mr Boravica said.

Full details of the reasoning behind the committee's decision will be disclosed within the next month. Under RWWA regulations, a warning-off notice can be imposed on a person who "may be prejudicial to the proper conduct or control of racing".

An inquiry into the assault of a farrier at Mr Harper's stables led to a five-year ban in 2005.

Mr Harper broke the rules of the disqualification less than four years later by working at a stable and entering racetracks in the US.

As a result, stewards restarted the five-year ban.

Mr Harper was WA's premier reinsman when he set a then-State trotting record with 240 winners in the 2001-02 season.

His son Kyle, a pacing trainer-reinsman, launched a tirade against RWWA in a post on Facebook.

He said the decision was a disgrace.

Watch R3 Albany sat night. Have a look a lap out and the driver of the one one who let the 2nd favourite off the leaders back. Very dirty.

Under the WA rules the favourite could have posted the one/one horse three wide and in my opinion the one/one which was $63 eased to make sure he did not get posted at that point but was forced three wide soon after anyway.

Gaita's back! Lovable Larrikin goes forward and leads ............. um not seen that in ..... well ....... its career!

Careful with the Gaita comments, AD.

From what I remember she'd get a gig in the women's UFC events......

if she finds the need for a career change.

narissa mcmullen caused an abandoned/rerun race in the 7th at redcliffe

when you're drawn 1 and you're about to get crossed, why beat the **** out of the horse till it gallops? happens all the time.

honestly I am thinking we are the ones who need to be sacked!  I would love to know how many years these cripples are taking off my life. 

Blake Hewitt last night not getting Mysterious River off the gate and making it gallop.  I have mentioned the Hewitt's before.  I have this vision of them all running around at home and running into each other.  They have to be inbred. 

And Mat Rue.  Honestly, not that you can count that Miracle Mile as a Miracle Mile given it was just a FFA put on in the middle of the year.  He must be the worst driver of all time to win it.  No wonder he is McCarthy's no 2.  Perfect driver for it.

honestly I am thinking we are the ones who need to be sacked!  I would love to know how many years these cripples are taking off my life. 

Blake Hewitt last night not getting Mysterious River off the gate and making it gallop.  I have mentioned the Hewitt's before.  I have this vision of them all running around at home and running into each other.  They have to be inbred. 

And Mat Rue.  Honestly, not that you can count that Miracle Mile as a Miracle Mile given it was just a FFA put on in the middle of the year.  He must be the worst driver of all time to win it.  No wonder he is McCarthy's no 2.  Perfect driver for it.

so bad I had to post it twice ;)

watching the mccarthy's (and team) make a meal of the simpson memorial (race 6 at menangle tonight) is the funniest thing I've seen in quite a while

no sympathy for the flogs either

interesting article indicates things are not as bad they often seem -

tab win pool makes up only about 10% of total betting on any harness race

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=22463

David Moran cant be far off his drive Bettor Move Sat night was a headshaker and his drive Hanover Fortyseven at Cobram today was on par with a guy who has no idea.

rhys nicolson he looks pretty in the cart but can't rate an apple in a fruit shop. watch good horses get slaughtered.

Just out of nappies and trainer for Sloys wtf???

two odds on two sunk. real good this kid.

Wait
Jason Lee on Keyang Starzzz
Please leave the Driving to Cravan if he was on woul of won by 20 and not try to make it look a Soft win.
He clearly has not Driven this horse out.
Yes it Burnt me as took All Up Breif Glanc, Keyang Starzzz, The Fat Man, Rogers Passion, Keyang Steamer for $50 Middle Tote.
Dont even want to try and work it out.
He ****g just sat there.

Horse Racing - Multi Bet
Melton Race 3 - 4. Brief Glance - Mid Tote Win
Alive
Melton Race 4 - 5. Keayang Starzzz - Mid Tote Win
Dead
Melton Race 5 - 2. The Fat Man - Mid Tote Win
Alive
Melton Race 6 - 2. Rogers Passion - Mid Tote Win
Alive
Melton Race 7 - 11. Keayang Steamer - Mid Tote Win
Alive - $50.00 Multi (5 Legs)
NO RETURN
ID: BFB527B1-DA38-4581-A30E-A2E82828AF0F

Could someone tell Simone Walker she has a good horse in Hectorjayjay so drive it like its a good horse. Never seen one driven so meekly than her drive in Shepp R4.

She was a bit of a victim in the end I think, I say that assuming she knew they were not handing up with Major Secret

Didn't pull out at 900m when ample opportunity

I don't think it could have sat 3 wide no cover for over a lap and won, but I concede if you backed it you may have expected her to come out

Have you ever seen a less competitive race than The George Gath Trot. Races like that show how far the trots have gone down the gurgler. Every driver in that race had conceded before it was run.

Gees tyre do you have a good thing to say about anything?

The lemons I suck are fresh

what bout g mac. gotta go to tamworth to get a drive. things are desperate.

Prince Kai a Peter Rixon gem - great drive

mach banner in the wild west. layers knew. got beat by a 5000 claimer. bet the new owners will be excited about the big bucks spent on that slug.

they should spend their cash on 8k c2's from the east, 6 months later they'll be m2's in WA.... ben cartwright, huchi fella, courage on fire, lord diego

its embarrasing how weak they are over there

j osborn. watch this blokes drives carefully. raises some questions.

the master of all masters. g lang. im smouldering. that was brilliance. how good a lead was the betfair drift. top way to finish a night.

Not as vigorous as his drive on Restrepo the other night

Richard Caruana race 7 Ballarat tonight 1x1 majority of race was trailing the fave (his horse was 60/1 chance)- pulled out 3 wide solo at 650m mark gone at 550m mark forced horse 4 wide when pulling out

robert morris handing up on a horse that always holds the front no cot. they are playing you off a break stewards.

Solvalla you are all over these blokes.  Josh Osbourn is very shifty.  Him and his mate Clayton Harmey are hot workers indeed.

The Robert Morris drive was a disgrace.  Hold the front at Menangle and then hand up to Ruben Wiki at Penrith.  P-lease!  Read the stewards reports and all the drivers do is give a spiel of how circumstances changed and blah blah. The stewards then just remind them of their obligations over rule whatever.  Joke.

And in keeping with the topic of this thread.  Gavin Fitzpatrick.  Seriously how bad.  Why would you not drop in behind Munroe in the last lap.  He must be legally classified as a special needs person.

Of all the drives listed on this thread, they pale into insignificance when looking at S Boyington's drive on Magic Moment Lombo tonight. How to get one beat!!

Check out jake Stockton race 8 at albury

Quads start on race 5 from now on ..starting tomorrow
Da fuq..who knew

mitch butterfield gets 15 years by HRNSW stewards

good job reid sanders.. can't understand why so many owners gave him horses again after last DSQ, do people really want to win that badly

agree 100% uncle. well done to reid sanders in this regard. he has no tolerance of the cheats nor should he. shame he isnt as strict in other areas. the trots might actually get cleaned up one day.

15 years. he wont be back. the press release said within 4 years this was his second set of offences. some people never learn. there will be a mine somewhere he can take his pick to each day now.

when is greg bennett back?

Trotting drivers are expert in losing by the long neck etc.....any number of excuses get them off....once was   a saying  at Albion Park ....There are no stewards at the trots....As for us knockers we would all probably pull a swifty every now and then....  remember a rort is only a rort if your not in on it!!

admiral bronski case in point henry?

that was one of the best i have seen.

Stuart Hunter - A. Donahue combination

john oshea Amanda turnbulls bitch